This article was originally written back in 2014. Back then I had tried seven bespoke shoemakers, and nothing in Japan. Seven years later, the number has more than doubled, and the spread is wider – also encompassing some semi-bespoke and some remote fittings. 

This then is a summary of my experiences with different bespoke shoemakers, meant as a jumping-off point for those new to the area. Have a read of each summary, then use the links to find the articles with more information. Usually there are at least two – one background article and one specific review. Both will be helpful.

This is a partner to the ‘Tailors I have known’, which does something similar but with 55 bespoke tailors. There is also one on shirtmakers (21) here, and one coming on made-to-measure. 

 

 

Cleverley

I have three pairs of bespoke shoes from Cleverley – brown cap-toes, black imitation brogues and Russian-reindeer monk straps (above). I covered the process of making the first pair in detail, over 13 posts, so there is no lack of detail on them.

I had a few issues with the fit of the first couple of pairs, specifically around the outside joints and my little toe. This was mitigated with stretching – something I should have gone in and asked about earlier. More on that in my update post on the brown pair here

Surprisingly, Cleverley might be the most distinct shoemaker on this list, as their standard shoe is lighter in construction than anyone else. This means they are comfortable slightly quicker in the morning, but less comfortable towards the end of the day, in my experience. Cleverley also tends to do less burnishing or patina work.

 

 

Foster & Son

I had a pair of dark-brown oxfords made with Foster & Son, and they too were surprisingly unusual. The last shape was more curved – ‘banana’ shaped – than any other pair I’ve had, though this wasn’t that noticeable unless you looked at the profile from the top. 

The fit was good, better than the Cleverley for a first pair. But there were issues with the finish, where the heavily patinatation began to quickly flake off. Still, this was quite easily dealt with and they remain a very good fit. 

 

 

Nicholas Templeman

Nicholas Templeman is an ex-John Lobb shoemaker, and his approach is best thought of as grounded in that tradition, with a slightly wider appreciation of styles elsewhere. 

He made me a pair of grained derbys with a beautiful chain stitch around the apron (above). The fit was very good, and comfortable immediately. I also liked the subtle styling, with no work lacking in the waist or heel, but less extreme than with other makers. 

The facings needed to be tweaked a couple of times, to get them to line up better when laced on my foot. But Nicholas was very happy, indeed insistent, on correcting this as much as possible.

 

 

Gaziano & Girling

I have had three pairs of bespoke from Tony, Dean and co – a seamless slip-on in hatchgrain leather, an oxford adelaide (pictured above) and a suede slip-on (below). The adelaides were made in the wrong colour originally, and were subsequently patinated to the dark-brown you can see here.

Those shoes are among my best-fitting bespoke. It helped I think that the style is quite a standard G&G one – this was not starting from scratch on a new design. The seamless loafers were beautiful, and one of my favourite pairs from a style point of view. But the fit was trickier, both being new and being a loafer. More on the suede slip-ons below. 

 

 

Daniel Wegan / Catella

These suede slip-ons were made while Daniel Wegan was at Gaziano & Girling, and they are Gaziano & Girling shoes. However, Daniel made a new last for these, as well as making and fitting them throughout. So now that Daniel is set up on his own, they do provide some experience of his service as well. 

The loafers were probably the most beautiful in terms of the sole and heel work I’ve had, with a thin sculpted waist and pitched heel. The shape was also very elegant. The fit wasn’t the best, and we had a couple of tries at stretching them since to improve that. But part of that is probably down to having loafers as a first pair of bespoke.

 

 

Tim Little

The Tim Little brand (at Grenson) used to offer a little-discussed bespoke service, with Tim doing the consultation in his shop and the measuring and pattern-making being done by Tony Botterill. The key attraction was the price, which back in 2014 when I had my boots made, was £1950 for the first pair and £900 thereafter (once the last was done).

Tim was upfront from the beginning that the shoes would have none of the delicacies of top bespoke – the shaped waists, pitched heels and so on. But they would be hand-sewn on a bespoke last. And that delivered, in that the fit was good (after an initial fitting where I couldn’t get the boots on!).

However, the materials are still at a Grenson level, and I feel like this is a bit of a mismatch. I wouldn’t use the service again, preferring decent-fitting higher-quality RTW, or an adjusted last from the likes of Saint Crispin’s, if I wanted something cheaper. 

 

 

Yohei Fukuda

These are among my favourite pairs of bespoke shoes, and yet they’re not strictly speaking bespoke, which I think speaks to how important design remains in bespoke shoemaking – as in tailoring. 

I had wanted a pair of Yohei’s shoes for a long time, yet he wasn’t doing trunk shows in the UK. So when I visited Japan, I tried on the classic oxford he makes, and asked Yohei to adapt a RTW last as best he could. The result was good – not the best bespoke fit I’ve ever had, but still better than ready-to-wear, and exquisitely made. 

 

 

Masaru Okuyama

Masaru Okuyama is a Japanese shoemaker, based in Hong Kong. He made me the dark-brown oxfords shown above (I know, a recurring style for me, but it is the one I wear the most by far). They were superbly made, and I think reflect at a broader level the excellence that Japanese shoemakers have brought to the industry – whether working in Hong Kong, Italy or England. 

The fit was also very good. Not perfect, but then a first pair of bespoke usually isn’t – something that I think should put off most readers that are unsure about committing the time and money. The last was also a little long and there was a bit too much room in the vamp, both of which I would have changed had I commissioned a second pair. 

 

 

Stefano Bemer

I am rather emotional about my Stefano Bemer shoes, given I was measured and the first pair ordered from Stefano, before he passed away. I have since had three pairs in total: tan oxfords, tobacco-suede oxfords and hatchgrain oxfords (above). 

The fit of the first pair was quite good, but we did have issues with the in-step and the way the elongated toe-cap bent the vamp. These were corrected on the second pair, which were a great fit. And the third demonstrated a way that bespoke can be more accessible – they were partly machine made, on my bespoke last, under the ‘Blue bespoke’ offering from Bemer. 

 

 

Stivaleria Savoia

Savoia is another Milanese shoemaker, and an old, storied one. ‘Stivaleria’ means bootmaker, and the company was founded by the makers of boots for the Savoia, or Savoy, cavalry. They are also owned now by the famous Neapolitan tiemaker E.Marinella, which has helped bring them more attention. 

The shoes that Savoia made me (above) were OK in the fit, but lacked something in the style. This wasn’t just the absence of bespoke touches like fine waists or heels. Lobb and others do that too. It was more the fact that the shoes looked like old-fashioned and perhaps even characterless. I do like rounder, wider shoes often (such as Aldens) but these weren’t to my personal taste from a style point of view. 

 

 

Rivolta

Rivolta are also based in Milan. Their inclusion here should be heavily qualified by the fact that I had boots made by them 11 years ago, and I’m told their process has changed since then. 

They used an electronic foot-scanning machine to make a last for me, which was then made into (beautifully crafted) suede boots. Unfortunately the scanning process didn’t work perfectly, and they didn’t fit. They were subsequently remade, and much improved, but still didn’t work out in the long term. Interestingly, there was a bit of a vogue for these machines back then, with old brand Lodger using one too. This seems to resurface now and again. 

I would like to re-try Rivolta sometime, given this was quite a specific experience.  

 

 

Saint Crispin’s

We’re now into semi-bespoke. Saint Crispin’s do offer a bespoke service, but it’s not one used that much. They are better known for a handmade shoe made on an adjusted last – so without multiple fittings – and being cheaper as a result.  

I have had two pairs of shoes and two pairs of boots made, with the first being the wing-tips shown above. The make of the shoes has been fantastic, and I couldn’t recommend that more highly, given the price. However, there have been issues with the fit, with the two boots working out a lot better than the two pairs of shoes. The latter have both needed to be relasted, but still weren’t as good.

However if the fit can work for you, it’s the first thing I’d recommend to a reader looking to upgrade on RTW, but not sure about bespoke. 

 

 

Petru & Claymoor

I put Petru & Claymoor here in the list, because they also make in Romania, like Saint Crispin’s, and are similar in style as well. The shoes above were made for me last year, during lockdown, and so measured and fitted remotely. They do offer full bespoke, but I include the shoes in more of a semi-bespoke section for that reason.

The shoes were very well made, although rather stiff. They also fitted well, which was impressive given the remote process. But that lack of direct communication probably affected the style, as they were made particularly wide in the joints, creating a wide shoe that I didn’t like so much the style of. 

 

 

Santoni

I’m not a particular fan of the Santoni style of shoe. But I was interested in trying out the service when it was offered – as part of work for a magazine – because it’s always interesting to see how bigger brands handle a bespoke type of service. 

The shoes were nice, but I think more like an extension of the ready-to-wear, rather than the bespoke covered elsewhere in this piece. So although a new last was made, the fit around the arch and heel was not that precise. And that goes for the make too: the welt and sole were hand-sewn, but the look is still very much of a RTW Santoni shoe. 

 

 

Norman Vilalta

Norman is one of my favourite people in the world – a wonderful person and a great craftsman. We started a project to make a bespoke pair of boots years ago, after a long discussion about boot styles in Madrid. 

We did get to a fitting stage, in waste leather, but we couldn’t agree on the style. Perhaps because I had in mind something more traditionally English, and not so much what Norman normally makes. From the start it had been an experiment Norman was trying out with me, rather than a commission by a customer, and not something he was charging for as a result. And in the end we decided to leave it, with the hope of doing something else more Norman, in the future. 

 

 

Carreducker and Calzoleria Carlino

These last two are holding posts. I am in the process of making a pair of bespoke boots with James at Carreducker, but with two interesting variations. First, the entire process has been done remotely, and Carreducker have been more thorough with this than any other craftsman I’ve seen, from making instructional videos to adding more forms of measuring. 

And second, the boots are being made in their ‘Bespoke Manufactured’ service, which is similar to the Blue bespoke from Stefano Bemer. The fitting and lastmaking are done as with bespoke, and the welt is hand-sewn, but the rest of the making is my machine, like a good Northampton shoe. This lowers the price and makes it easier to make more casual styles on a bespoke fit. 

Lastly, I recently began the process of trying a bespoke pair of shoes with Calzoleria Carlino, the Italian maker based in Sassuolo, Modena. That too, at least at the start, is being done remotely. 

 

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jon

Great post Simon. I assumed Edward Green would be on this list. Any plans to go with EG bespoke in the future?

Andy Liu

Hi Simon:
Great article. And i cannot agree with you more about your comments on John Lobb.
But why there is no intro about EG? i have two pairs now, cannot love them more!! super comfortable even after a whole day walk over the weekends.
What do you think about EG?
Thanks

Andy

Ulrich

Interesting to see that, regarding shoes and also clothing, you are not thinking at all about Vienna / Hungary. Not your style?

rups

tell us more gossip about the arrogance in Lobb .. its the weird idiosyncrasies of the bespoke makers that is often more fascinating that the end article of clothing or shoes … which at the end of the day are just that.

Jason Ball

I have a pair of slip ons from Gaziano Girling and love them. Only MTO but the quality and fit is wonderful. Dean Girling is an old school friend and lives close by. Wholeheartedly recommend, far more than I can say about other school friends!

andy

hi simon unrelated to this post, but something you have talked about in your previous tailoring posts, specifically one on tailors you have known. you mentioned a tight back in that post, which I have noticed on some new bespoke jackets I have as well. Do bespoke jackets have some give and take time to break in a bit?

Peter K

Simon–
I’m not sure if he’s someone you’d be interested in, but I have had a very good experience with Perry Ercolino in Doylestown, PA. As one of the very, very few U.S.-based custom shoemakers, he is a one-man (plus apprentice) operation who has been in the custom shoe business for a few decades. While you have a plethora of options in London (and with a bit of travel, the rest of the continent), for your U.S.-based readers it might be welcome for you to stop by and have a chat (or a fitting!) and let us know what you think next time you find yourself in New York.

Peter K

I do, Simon. Every time the rodeo comes to town! While I haven’t had any experience with them, I have heard great things about several makers and hope to get a chance to try them out.

Jordan

Interesting article Simon. One question for you, you commented that your shoes from Stefano Bemer fit better than any other first pair of bespoke shoes. Can you explain this a bit more for me? Is it common that the fit of a bespoke shoe wouldn’t be perfect and would be improved with a 2nd, 3rd pair?

Jordan

Rob o

Hi Simon, great post, thank you. I still can’t work out how I’m going to afford those G&G Adelaides but one day I’m going to get them. One thing you haven’t mentioned is the inevitable requirement to re-sole such high-end footwear. Do you simply send them to Northampton or use a specialist cobbler?

One pair of my RTW EGs are in need of re-soling and i don’t know what’s the best course of action.

Rob o

Thanks Simon

John K

Your comments on Lobb are interesting. When I was looking to order my first pair of bespoke shoes about 10 years ago I visited Lobbs (even though I could not really afford their prices) and found them very welcoming. In contrast I found Cleverley rather condescending. Maybe I just caught them on a bad day but I remember thinking ‘they are not getting my money!’. In the end I chose Jason Amesbury over Fosters because he was just that little bit cheaper, but I have never regretted my choice.

Bobby

Hi Simon, thank you for this. Perhaps now I will lean towards G&G. Fit is the most important thing for me. It is a bonus that they know how to finish/antique. You have saved me from making some expensive mistakes!

Anonymous

Very good article, thanks. I have quite wide feet, which of these makers (RTW and bespoke) suits that more? I know some have RTW that must take the lasts from ballerinas!

Anonymous

Could you do a post on shapes? Classic, chisel, pointed, round etc. the main shapes, what they go with, what style they indicate and how to wear them would go a really really long way!

Julian

One often reads that new Oxfords should not completely close so that there is a slight V. After wearing them in the leather should have streched a bit and they should close completely.

However when I look at your bespoke shoes, they are completely closed from the begining.

Can you explain me why?

Julian

Maybe not all when I look closer to the pictures, but your
Stefano Bemer’s for example.

Michael

Simon,
Some advice please. I have used Lobb Paris and Messina in Milan in the past for my bespoke shoes. I am thinking of a Suede pair now – any suggestions?

Peter O

Dear Simon,

You say due to the fit of the fitting, you disputed about cover – do you mean about payment?

Ollie Emberson

Evening Simon,
I’m due to be going for my first bespoke suit & separates in March (Thom Sweeney), and want to acquire some shoes to finish it off. I’ve been looking at G&G, Stefano Bemer, Silvano Lattanzi, George Cleverley and Corthay. What you you recommend as a 1st & 2nd pair?

Ollie Emberson

Hey Simon, following my initial comment, I’ll be getting a charcoal herringbone 3 piece as my first bespoke endeavour. It’s solely for evening, dinners etc as I am not required to wear a suit for work. I’m also 20, so I can get away with most things (or at least I like to think so!). I have narrowed it down to three makers now… G&G, Corthay & Berluti. I’d like to get one from each, however am unsure whether bespoke or MTO would be best. Berluti is £5000 for the initial bespoke which seems insane, but I couldn’t think of going for a RTW model from berluti as I couldn’t justify spending £1350 for a pair of blake shoes that have a massive mark up (unless it was a special order alessandro, of which would be Norwegian welt). Would you say bespoke is worth the price you pay or would MTO suffice?

Ollie Emberson

Okay so Berluti is a big no-no. I’m aware that G&G is £3,600 + VAT (before the price increase this month), but do you know Corthay’s prices by any chance?

Anonymous

Dear Simon, I came across your post when researching my first first bespoke shoe order.
Why do you state “don’t pay for Berluti” ? Many of my friends have done Bespoke with Berluti and they are extremely pleased with the result.

bruce jackson

Hi Simon,
For a significant upcoming birthday i have decided to treat myself to a pair of bespoke shoes, this will probably be my only pair ( black oxford with a toe cap probably) so considering not only the fit and finish but the enjoyment of the process out of Foster&Son, George Cleverly and Gaziano & Girling which company would you pick and why. I know its a very subjective question but as this will be my first bespoke anything i am looking to someone with the experience of all three companies for guidance.
many thanks,
Bruce Jackson.

Anonymous

Have you ever considered using Bocache?

Anonymous

Are all your bespoke shoes made with Goodyear welts? Do you have any Blake welted shoes?

Brandon Smith

Any interest in Saint Crispin’s MTO Personal last service? Could that be the ideal thing for someone who wants a custom hand-welted shoe but doesn’t want to spend 3-4K?
– B.

Lau

How did it turn out?

Tri Tran

Hi Simon,
I’m intending to have my first bespoke shoes. Since I’m living in UK, English shoemakers are more convenient for me and I have made my mind to start with G.J. Cleverley. However, since they do not do patina, I wonder if there is any good patina service in UK. Moreover, do you believe that they will achieve a great fit for my flat feet? This is so far my another big concern as most shoemakers are fond of the waist in the middle of the shoes because it is stylish and with flat feet I don’t think there will be any waist in my shoe last.
Thank you,
Tri Tran

Anonymous

Are there any Milanese shoemakers left besides Mele?

Phil

Simon, any views on The Left Shoe Company? I know they are not technically bespoke, as you cannot choose your style but they seem to be by far the cheapest possible option if you want shoes tailored to your individual size. I have a couple of pairs, and the style is OK, but the fit superb. I have not worn them enough to comment on durability, and don’t know enough to judge the quality of the materials used.

Conrad

Hello to everyone! I make bespoke shoes and bespoke patina works in Hungary. And i wonder if in your opinion if i relocate myself to UK…especially in Oxfordshire area i will be able to make a living from my craftmanship ? now my bespoke goodyearwelted shoes price are between 350-600 gbp…. and i want to keep this price range if i relocate to. Any opinion will be appreciate… maybe will help me to make a decission.

Bob DD

You cannot move and work in the UK unless 1) you already hold the right to do so (e.g. you’re a British national), 2) are employed by a firm with a licence to sponsor visas, 3) are a top CEO of a firm employing hundreds and brining millions in investment to the UK, or 4) are a sports, rock, film, fashion celebrity.

David

Hi Simon-
I would love to see an update on this post, if you have the time. I believe there are a few brands and many pairs of shoes that could be added to this list on its ~2 year anniversary. I’m seriously considering my first pair of bespoke and am hoping to collect as much information on the various brands as possible.
Thank you,
David

David

It must have been the Saint Crispins I was thinking of. I was eyeing a tan pair of theirs, until reading your comments about how shoes should generally be darker than the accompanying pants and how tan shoes and therefore too often worn incorrectly.

S.

Dear Simon,

Who would be the top RTW shoemakers you would recommend that produced near to Bespoke quality shoes ? (G&G ? EG? ect..)

Thank you very much!

S

S.

And also how would you compare J.M. Weston with G&G for example ?

S.

And last question, sorry! Would you recommend “cheap” bespoke or expensive RTW ?

S.

Thank you very much for your answers! Quite understand that some of those questions are vast. An article on cheaper bespoke vs. expensive RTW would probably be interesting for quite a few readers (in shoes and tailoring actually), as always a hesitation at a certain price level!

S.

One last question: What do you think of generally think of Freccia Bestetti shoes ?

S

Great, thanks a lot!

RDH

Very interested in some of the comments in this thread. In particular, Simon, your comment on the finishing by Cleverley. How does that manifest itself – patina I get, but burnishing? The reason I ask is that I took delivery of my first pair of shoes from Cleverley, chocolate brown cap toe Oxfords, and was really disappointed with them (and the service, but that is for another time). I gave them back to be “cleaned up” but having worn them twice the leather seems to be getting small creases behind the cap and along the instep near the top of the shoe. Is that the finish or do I have a bigger problem?

Hoping going this far back in time to make a comment is not a problem!

RDH

Great – thanks Simon. To be clear on burnishing, this is about… depth of shine? Smoothness of leather?

On the wrinkles, perhaps in my naiveté I made an assumption the finish would be of a certain style. Will wear the shoes and see how they develop – but at the moment, not feeling positive. A learning point for my next pair…..

RDH

Got it. Thanks

Thomas Stephen

Hi Simon,

I realise this article is from a while ago but I’m curious to know your opinion on which of your bespoke shoes have the best fit and are the most comfortable after all these years?

Thank you,
Thomas

Anonymous

Do bespoke shoemakers typically agree or refuse to re-make your previous shoes if your later last-adjusted pairs are better fitting? I’m not referring to trial shoes, but shoes that have already been completed.

Sol

Hello Simon,

If possible, I am looking forward to seeing an update on this article. I believe that in the past 5 years, you have had quite a few new commissions from makers that are not mentioned here. It would be great to have your thoughts on those experiences, and about new commissions from those already mentioned here.
Thank you!

Lindsay Mckee

Hi Simon. Happy New year. How are the Templeman Shoes you are commissioning coming along?
Do I hear that Daniel Wegan has moved on from Gaziano & Girling…. Maybe I’m wrong here….

Lindsay Mckee

Many thanks Simon.
I may have to consider bespoke as I have sensitivity akin to inflammation in my left foot, which hurts after a day’s wearing, even in the office, while wearing a new pair of Crockett & Jones Bradford plain Derby shoes which have already been worn in. Maybe due to heal slippage so therefore am considering Nicholas Templeman, Carreducker or G&G if this will result in a more superior and comfortable fitting shoe. Looking forward to your report on the Nicholas Templeman shoes when you receive them.
Many thanks
Lindsay

Lindsay Eric McKee

I contacted Daniel Wegan recently and he currently charges around a starting price of £4320 including VAT and trees. This is for a captoe Oxford shoe. £500 surcharge for a first order to cover last making and the fitting process. Given his bespoke experience I may well be checking him out.

Anonymous

I’m surprised you haven’t had anything from John Lobb St James, is there any reason for this? Or have I missed it?

Chancellor

I observe that you’ve done 3+ commissions at a few makers (Cleverley, G&G, Stefano Bemer, St. Crispin’s) but only single commissions from most others.

Can you comment on what has brought you back to some but not others? I get the sense the reasons may differ. E.g. Cleverley was early in ordering bespoke, and you perhaps went back once time to get the Russian Leather one time. Whereas G&G and Bemer seem to have the style and fit you like.

Also, I think a future post on differences in style from shoemaking traditions of English v. Italian v. Japanese would be interesting.

Anon

Hi Simon,

The link to the slip on G&G shoes directs to a dead site.

Cheers!

K

Simon, lovely post.

Appreciate you highlighting which shoemakers offer services remotely.

Can you speak to anything similar for any tailors? I, unfortunately, live in a country with very few tailoring options and so I was interested in trying that as an option. I know Dylan & Son in Singapore offers this service, don’t know too many others.

Paul Boileau

Thanks for the post. You seem to like grained leather and aprons! Is there any particular reason for this? Of this style, the Templeman’s seem to me to be the most pleasing to the eye although I don’t like the laces much. I have the EG Dovers which are one of my favourite pairs of shoes. I pray to God that I’m an easy fit and have a boring taste in shoes…

Mujtaba

Hi Simon – should Yohei be moved to the semi-bespoke section of this piece, given that you didn’t do fittings?

Adam

Somewhat off topic question but it may as well go on a bespoke shoe post – I find I have a very high bridge & arches on my foot. The facings on shoes pretty much never line up and on oxfords there is always a noticeable gap (sometimes a very large one, depending on the shoe). I’ve found that this affects how well loafers fit – I’ve tried a few different pairs of loafers but they’ve always been way too tight over the bridge. Does anyone else have this problem? Are there any particular shoes/brands that are better?

Jtkuga

Simon,

When I read your post it appears you often have fit issues with bespoke, some shoes you couldn’t even get on, which has me questioning the value of bespoke for shoes. I am currently sitting in my office wearing a pair of Allen Edmonds black cap to oxfords (Park Avenue or Fifth Avenue was the model if I remember correctly). The are about as comfortable as most dress shoes (at least the ones I have owned) and they fit fine as far as I’m concerned. They are tighter in certain areas an looser in other, but at the end of the day my feet aren’t hurting anywhere. They are pretty conservative, and I have my eye on some slightly sleeker Crockett and Jones black cap toe oxfords for when these wear out, but I guess my question is really where is the value in shoes that are so expensive like your bespoke shoes, especially if you are having the fit problems you mention?

I see the value in a bespoke suit as my first one fits better in the chest/shoulder/neck area by far than any RTW or MTM suit I have owned before, and in fact jacket fit is why I chose to step up to bespoke in the first place (I was fine with MTM trousers, and even some RTW trousers). I’m not sure I see the value as much in bespoke shoes. In comparing your best fitting and most comfortable RTW shoes vs your bespoke shoes, where do you see the value/benefits? Please don’t take this as criticism as I am quite envious of your shoes, but as someone who is a minimalist (at least as far as PS readers go) I’m just trying to see if there is value in considering bespoke in shoes like there is in suit and odd jackets, or if my money would be better spent elsewhere. Thanks as always.

Russ

Great article, Simon. Having been very disappointed with the fit, old fashioned look and overpriced offering at John Lobb St James and the condescending attitude of a certain member of the family who wanted merely to stretch a pair of bespoke shoes that were rubbing my feet raw (they eventually admitted the shoes needed to be remade when I asked for my money back (the subsequent pair are slightly too large) I will never use them again. A friend of mine had a similar experience (he ordered two pairs of bespoke neither of which he was happy with). I think that firm has some customer service and complacency issues to think through.

The helpful attitude, fairer pricing and care taken by Tony Gaziano who has made me a beautiful first pair of bespokes is a complete contrast.

Corey

Great article Simon, thanks for the overview. More in depth on st crispins you said you had some issues with their fit but could work better for others.

I have a shorter wide foot. Do their lasts tend to favor that type of foot? Or a certain last they make that does? Thanks

Corey

Thanks Simon

Reg

Corey, if it helps, I have an ultra wide foot 4E (US) and J for EU that measures at about an 8 (UK). Phillip Car from Saint Crispin’s was really helpful in creating a modified last and am really happy with the shoes they provided. They fit quite well despite all the fitting had to be done remotely because of the pandemic.

Corey

Thank you Reg, that was most helpful. I will reach out when the time comes to order.

Nordwall

I also have wider feet and also a high instep. My shoes from st crispin are the best fit so far from the RTW shoes I own (G&G, EG, Alden Carmina etc.). I have size 10 1/2 G without any modifications, and I can highly recommend them. I used the classic last.

Amazing. I had no Idea, that you have tried that many shoe makers.
Especially when one knows that with bespoke shoes it might take several pairs to master your last.
I have experience with Antonio Meccariello and Ryota Hayafuji and would recommend both of them.

H

Hey Simon, I’m not sure where the best place to ask this is, but I’m wondering if you could briefly explain the difference between Stefano Bemer’s ready to wear and that of a Northampton maker like G&G or Edward Green? Is there a major difference in style or make?

Gohar Raja

Dear Simon
Hope your well during these difficult and uncertain times.
Just a little bit away from this article.
Do you know of any Japanese bespoke tailors and shoemakers with operations in London?
They are present in France and Italy as well as their respective country Japan, but why not in the country where bespoke tailoring and shoe making has played a very important role in developing and defining the craft?

Keep up the good work.

Regards

Gohar

Rolf

I don’t know about Japanese working in English tailoring, but there have been quite a few Japanese shoemakers working here over the last twenty or so years. There have been a number of shoe education schools and colleges (Cordwainer being the most famous) here in England with many Japanese students attending. After finishing many students stayed-on and worked either as staff or as outworkers for some of the famous shoemakers. Some of those courses exist no longer, others have changed their emphasis from craft to design.

But, apart from one exception, these Japanese lived and worked here for a couple of years and the moved on, mainly back into their homeland. I don’t know the reason for that, but I heard it was far more difficult to settle permanent in the UK compared to other EU countries. I know currently of two Japanese shoemakers who are staff members of leading shoemakers. (‘Currently’ means pre-Covid, things might have changed in the last year.)

Nevertheless, many Japanese shoemakers had an English training and some like Shoji Kawaguchi (Marquess) can be more English than the English.

The exception is Emiko Matsuda, who did work for some twenty years at Foster&Son and has hung-out her own shingle as bespoke shoemaker maybe eighteen months ago. Her husband Ueki also works in the trade as a bespoke closer (shoe upper maker) . You can see her work on her Instagram account.

Rik

Hi Simon, when you buy RTW from EG or others, would you tend to always get the same last?

Matt H

A nice selection of shoes. I’m curious what you think of burgundy/oxblood shades as I see you don’t have any there.

Have you considered Roberto Ugolini? I think if I had choice of any shoemaker, I would go there.

Rune

First I will again say that these articles of yours Simon are very valuable. As I read the article, I perceive that buying bespoke shoes is very risky. And all the while you get three or four pairs of very good rtw shoes for the same price as one pair of bespoke ones, I wonder if tailor-made shoes are worth buying.?As you write it, you must also have several pairs of bespoke shoes for the first pair will never be completely perfect.

JSB

Simon,

Although I realise that this post is about bespoke shoemakers, it is in my opinion as good a place as any to make this comment. Several years ago, I decided to up my shoe game from Church’s to Edward Green. The Church’s (3 pairs are 17 years old, still going strong and still loved). I have 4 pairs of EG’s which I absolutely love too. A few of these pair were bought from the EG factory sale.

I am unlikely to be able to afford bespoke shoes but if I did they would have been GG’s based on their style. Some years ago, about 3 years I think, I was at the EG factory sale and got chatting to a gentleman about shoes in general and he suggested that GG would be a great alternative for me based on what I had discussed about styles. I’ve always had a fondness to own a pair of St James II.

When GG had a sample sale, at least 2 or 3 years now (can’t remember exactly), they had the most unhelpful service staff in store. I remember walking into the store on Savile Row and asking for some assistance and being told that all styles were out (that meaning packed in their boxes) and I would just have to look through all of them. The two service assistants then just stood at the back of the shop. I promptly walked out never to return again.

I know that many of your readers love GG but I cannot and will not spend money on high end goods and tailoring, be that on RTW, MTO or bespoke where I do not get good customer service, in the case of GG I got none.

Russ

Must have been an off day, JSB. I’ve always had good service at GG on Savile Row and I’ve found both Tony G and Dean G are lovely guys.

Y.P

Dear Simon, thanks for this wonderful summary. May I ask about the reason why John Lobb Ltd. is not yet on your list? Their shoes are for sure not the most fashion forward ones, but the make and material quality is great from what I´ve seen. A pair from 1960s I own is still like made from yesterday. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Ferdinand

Do you think with bespoke its possible to accommodate orthopedic issues while maintaining elegance? I start having some issues with my feet, and I often see older gentlemen at some point switch to chunky orthopedic shoes even if otherwise dressed very elegantly.
For now (I’m in my thirties), I wonder if going bespoke will be any better than just using individualized orthopedic foam insoles in my Edward Greens – I personally have no interest in unusual styles, so bespoke does nothing for me from a design perspective. Thanks in advance!

Russ

In response to Ferdinand’s comment, I have flat feet which ‘pronate’ (rock inwards slightly) as I walk and would say that a shoemaker is not a substitute for a really good podiatrist who supplies inserts made to accommodate specific feet problems. One of the issues I had with Lobb was that they assured me I would not need my inserts as they would make a bespoke shoe that accommodated my flatness, then, after I had paid them, and the fit didn’t work, recommended I put my podiatry inserts back in! The shoes Tony Gaziano is currently making for me are designed to accommodate the shape of my feet and I loaned him a pair of my orthotic inserts so the ‘sock’ (the part of the shoe under the foot) would be an exact fit. If you wish, Simon, I will let you know how this pans out after I’ve worn them for a while, as I think this is a common problem for many men, especially as they get older, and might merit a future article.

Ant

To JSB; the sample sales are not the ideal time to get personal service – last years was slightly better as there was social distancing in operation, but in earlier years it was pretty chaotic. Dean and Tony are both very personable, interested and approachable when in the store, as is, for example, Simon (previous J Fitz).

Definitely dont give up on the shoes, and it’s worth a second chance as I’m sure you won’t be disappointed.

Ant

Hi Simon

It’s probably not something you would consider as you are at ‘proper’ bespoke level, but any thoughts/experience/desire to try any of the new wave semi and bespoke makers such as ACME, JimJun, Wayman, etc?

They are at an interesting price point to, say, StC and as an example, I’m weighing all these up at the moment but cant quite decide who to try. To date, I’ve just spent a lot on RTW from G&G, EG, Antonio Meccariello, etc.

And why is it so damn hard to get a RTW loafer that fits?! There seems to be quite a risk of a first bespoke commission being a loafer!

Chris Jones

There seems to be a common thread with most (every) article you write on bespoke items, they are never right first time or more often than not, ever. Given the huge prices associated with bespoke I would expect a higher level of satisfaction in your reviews. If I was sitting on the fence about having a bespoke pair of shoes, you would have convinced me not to (even though that isn’t your intention). While most are made by the best makers and using the finest materials ultimately shoes are about style and fit. On the first, many don’t look much different from those available as RTW. In respect of comfort, none of your writing suggests walking on air or day long satisfaction. The same can be said for your tailoring reviews. If, like you, one makes a living from writing about the experience then it’s all part of a process (enjoyable or not) but for the rest of us mere mortals, I’m not sure if I can be bothered to pay a large chunk of money up front, wait a long time to receive them, be disappointed about certain aspects of the style, fit or finish, to have them altered, repaired or remade only to find out that they are only comfortable in the morning but not in the afternoon. While I enjoy reading your articles, you do more to put me off buying anything bespoke rather than be an advocate of the process. My Edward Sexton Offshore Bespoke suits experience is far from perfect and can be quite frustrating at times but it’s probably about as far as I want to go (it’s not the price) I simply can’t be bothered (it would simply frustrate me) to pay that much money for something, that I can only deduce from your writings, will never live up to the mythical status that authors over the decades wax lyrical about. Being a West Ham supporter, life is already full of disappointment but I don’t need to spend thousands of pounds to feel that way.

Lindsay McKee

I just discovered that Gaziano & Girling are now offering an Optimum Made to Order, where the shoe is handmade, albeit on an existing last affording more ornamentation to the shoes. Is this option worth the money at around £2700?

Jordan

Hi Simon,

I found this article very interesting as I have an extraordinarily difficult time finding shoes that fit me. I was measured to be a 5.5C in Crockett and Jones, but even their shoes in this size do not fit me properly (I believe due to how very narrow my heel is). I have tried insoles, tongue pads, shoes from the women’s section, etc. but to no avail. I’ve tried shoes on at Grenson, Barker, Loake as well. The employees at C&J said they couldn’t even suggest another brand that might fit me.

At this point I feel that bespoke is my only option. The only issue for me is that the cost is quite prohibitive as I recently graduated from university and have only been working for a little over a year. I think perhaps I may just have to save up for a while. It is not even the quality that I am particularly concerned about, although I realise the quality will be significantly higher with a pair of bespoke shoes – I just want something that fits.

Do you have any advice for me?

Thanks

Chris

Hi Jordan,

Although it sounds like you’re in the UK, if you have an opportunity to look at American brands, both Allen Edmonds and Alden carry a much broader range of sizes than most UK makers. Allen Edmonds carries down to a 4UK and Alden carries down to 5.5UK.

Hope that helps!

JBW

Hi Simon,
I was gifted a pair of crocodile oxfords that are nice, but the fit isn’t as perfect as I’d like. I approached G&G and Saint Crispin’s about re-making the shoe on a new last (my preference would be a boot with suede upper and the crocodile lower portion) and got pushback from both. Is there any shoemaker out there who could achieve what I am looking for?

Alex

Hi Simon, I hope you are well!

I visited your popup store and purchased the pair of Calzoleria Carlino suede oxford shoes – I was very happy that it fit me quite well.

Just out of curiosity, could you please let me know more about the shoes and the background behind them which you eventually decided not to wear?

Cheers,
Alex

Alex

Thanks Simon. I guess that is the downside of having a remote bespoke fitting. I am the lucky one here – thanks for putting them up for sale. I’ll look after them.

Taewoo

Simon what do you think about paying more money to coats more than shoes?
Do you think making bespoke shoes is worth than doing bespoke coat?

James

Hello simon do you think bespoke coatis worth than bespoke shoes?

James

Thanks i am very confused making shoes or coat collection

Kiby Allison

If you had 12k which two makers would you use?

Kirby Allison

Thanks for replying, Simon. As you may agree, bespoke is largely about the long-term relationship with the maker. As YF is a maker in Asia, did you experience any inconvenience from the long-distance relationship (eg. repairs, fit issues, maintenance, etc…)? You seem to indicate that the combination of fit/quality of YF outweighs the convenience you’d get from using makers nearby such as G&G and GC.

Alejandro Echeverri

I would never recommend it to anybody George Cleverley, the experience I had was not good at all, I was treated like nobody, and this is not what you expect from a bespoke shoemaker, the shoes were very unfitting I even sent my three pairs of shoes to get them more wearable. Still, the result was not good. I think you can find many shoemakers RTW much better, do not waste your money.

Lindsay McKee

Hi Simon,
Can you still recommend Nicholas Templeman today?
The reason that I ask this is than I am considering approaching G&G for a pair of MTO patinated Chelsea lazyman shoes to add to my collection which I may have alluded to in a previous post. My first MTO commission with G&G for a pair of Regent Oxford style shoes resulted in a pair of shoes with a tight fitting toecap. The rest of the shoe is fine. This was over one year ago. Not very noticeable while sitting down but while walking the tightness becomes very apparent.
No doubt the next commission should improve on the fit, maybe an H fitting in MTO with possibly a few other tweaks.
Would the option of going bespoke with G&G be naive, not to mention expensive or try bespoke with Templeman or even Wegan who may be a tad less expensive, yet by opting for bespoke, may “nail” my foot size much better.
From your experience on bespoke, what do you think may be my best option?
Sorry to be a pain but I wish to approach this wisely.

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Lindsay McKee

That’s partly the answer that I’d hoped for.

I’ll keep with G&G as I believe in being loyal to a good firm that gives good service.

Shall I stick with MTO then or go bespoke, albeit fearfully expensive?

The lazyman shoe is because I find pain due to unfortunate but possible arthritis, hence this option.

Lindsay McKee

Good point.
Thanks for that.

Lindsay McKee

An Oxford cap would have been my other option but do give me your opinion also!!

Lindsay McKee

Calfskin certainly.
Is patination ok or does it throw up any problems?

Lindsay McKee

Good to know
Thanks again.

ANON

Who today would be your three favourite shoe makers in each of the following categories:-

BESPOKE

MTO / RTW