Playing in the fabric room: The Ascot Chang workshop
There is no agent in Hong Kong for high-end shirt fabrics, and access across the region is harder than it is Europe or the US. As a result, Ascot Chang has a lot of cloth.
We went to visit them in Hong Kong recently because, while I’ve known Justin and his father for many years, we’ve only ever visited the shops, rather than the production. We could have spent many hours in that cloth room.
Historically, it was common for tailors and shirtmakers to have large rolls of cloth on site. But as costs have been cut over the years, the stock has dwindled and now the vast majority of orders are made from swatches. It’s hard not to feel this has made customers less connected to fabric, and reduced the understanding of it.
Ascot Chang has almost 6000 rolls on site, but even they can’t afford to have rolls in their shops or at trunk shows - so we were fortunate to be able to visit and browse through everything.
I eventually asked to use a pink stripe for a new commission. Patterned fabrics like this are ones I increasingly turn to - they give some interest when worn without a tie, but aren’t bold enough to make wearing with a patterned tie that difficult.
Ascot Chang make and sell their own shirts of course (and have had a shop in New York for a long time) but they also work with other brands, including The Armoury and Bryceland’s. Like their fellow Hongkonger WW Chan, this has pushed them in some new directions in terms of both style and cloth.
Sitting in the middle of the floor in Ascot’s cloth room, for example, was a roll of heavy buffalo-check wool, which has been used for Bryceland’s in the past. Other materials like rayon and terry cloth are similarly unusual.
Most of the fabrics are twills and poplins though, and the key thing that catches your eye is colour. When I visited I was actually wearing a shirt in a lilac fabric from Thomas Mason, which I would never have gone for that if I hadn’t seen something similar made up at Ralph Lauren. Swatches would not have been enough.
Ascot may not have rolls of fabric in its stores, but it does at least have shirts made up - which makes it easier to have confidence in new colours or patterns. Browsing the bolts at the factory made me reassess stronger blues, ginghams, and some interesting stripes.
Ascot Chang makes a very good machine-made garment. They don’t do hand-attached collars and sleeves like the Italians we cover, but their strength is consistency and value. The brands I know that work with them always praise these points, and when I had some shirts made with them back in 2018, I found the same.
Interestingly, Ascot does still offer hand-sewn buttons and buttonholes, but customers rarely ask for them. “It was a bit of a trend I think, perhaps 10 years ago,” says Justin (above). “These days we find people care less about those things.”
For a manufactured shirt, the things to watch out for are elements like fine stitching and pattern matching, and Ascot also do some very nice hand embroidery.
One of my other favourite things we saw in the workshop was the thread ‘bible’ - a book the staff have put together over the years showing which threads are used for which fabrics, so that if a customer uses the same fabric many years later, the same thread is used with it (below).
Ascot has a lot of heritage when it comes to shirtmaking - something it’s easy to assume is only found in Europe. Justin’s grandfather trained as a shirtmaker in Shanghai in the 1940s, before moving to Hong Kong in 1951 and opening his first store (in Tsim Sha Tsui, on the Kowloon side) in 1953.
His father opened the store in New York in 1986, and they now also have a second shop in Hong Kong, one in Shanghai, a franchise in the Philippines and many trunk shows around the world. They offer a little tailoring, largely because of a historic friendship with a tailor in New York.
Despite the retail presence, 70% of the Ascot business is still bespoke, all going through the one desk and manager here in Hong Kong. The size of that bespoke operation is clear from the pattern room (below).
The team did manage to find my pattern from back in 2018 among all those racks, and we looked at the differences between that and the most recent shirt Ascot made me, which had been through Bryceland’s (covered here last year).
They had also made me a fitting shirt in a basic white cloth, which was thoughtful, so we were able to conduct a quick fitting at the factory and will make a shirt in that striped pink poplin.
I’ll try and cover this new shirt when it’s ready, as Ascot really are a good option for readers to consider, particularly as people tend away from wanting so much handwork.
The Ascot stores can be seen on their website here. Trunk shows are currently in 10 different countries - details here. A bespoke shirt in New York starts at $380, in Hong Kong H$2150 and in London $280 (taxes and duties included in the others, but not London).
The shirt pictured on me is by Luca Avitabile, a fine oxford weave from Thomas Mason - the Cambridge quality, code FM33854. The suit is from Assisi, covered here.






































Interestingly, Ascot does still offer hand-sewn buttons and buttonholes, but customers rarely ask for them. “It was a bit of a trend I think, perhaps 10 years ago,” says Justin (above). “These days we find people care less about those things.”
This was an interesting observation. I care less about such things nowadays as well and wondered whether this was simply a matter of personal taste or reflected more broadly. I wonder whether this trend results from the general move away from tailored clothing towards casual wear where it is easier to express style whereas previously the only distinguishing feature of (e.g.) a navy suit would be the presence of handwork. Even a shirt worn without a jacket or tie where the pattern of the shirt matters more might warrant less focus on handwork. Is that perhaps the reason or is it more that handwork was a brief fad and would have faded anyway?
Another good article on a brand I admire.
Thanks Richard. I can see the tailoring connection, but I personally see it more with people I know as a fading of a sort of obsession with it. I think some functional handwork is still favoured by some, particularly if they feel the difference, but people are more measured about that now, and have often tried it and know whether they mind or not
Hand sewn buttons, especially those with a shank, will always be superior to machine sewn ones. I think what’s happening is the general enthusiasm for tailoring has dipped significantly.
I wouldn’t say that’s necessarily the case Rich, mostly because of the quality variation in hand-sewn buttons, but also because of advances in machine-sewn buttons. A lot of hand-sewn buttons are not done that precisely and are not achieving everything they can; equally machine sewn ones can do a good shank these days, and wrap that shank in an elastic layer
Nice article. Do you still consider Simone Abbarchi to be your plan A go-to or would Ascot take over from him for you..?
Simone probably still, but then I haven’t used Ascot for years and have just had one more made recently. With shirts there’s also a lot of intended inertia – you want reliability, so I don’t change unless I have to
I’ve heard alot about Ascot Chang from PS and others and having just quickly looked at their website noticed they price in HKD.
Simon , might I ask if we could get an article about taxes and duties etc when buying from abroad .
I’ve used afew MTM shirt makers from abroad with mixed results and noticed the whole customs process is a Russian roulette game.
I even went down the rabbit hole of looking at duties , taxes , taxes on taxes etc etc on a simple polo shirt .
It’s enough to make a grown man weep!
Hey Robin,
We have talked about this a little in the past (eg here and here) but the problem is that it varies both by where you’re buying from and where you’re importing to. So there are hundreds of combinations.
Perhaps let me know what specific questions you had that are perhaps more universal, so I can get an idea of whether we can help?
A simple starting point might be typically what duties and taxes are likely to be levied if you buy from overseas for delivery into the UK.
Thanks
That narrows things down in terms of the country of import, but there are still lots of variations depending on the exporting country.
– Generally, you will have to pay VAT and duties when something comes into the UK
– But both of those vary a lot
– For example, something made in the EU should not have duties on it when imported into the UK, under a deal between the two of them. But that doesn’t apply elsewhere.
– There’s also a minimum level at which duties start to be applied, and under that there isn’t anything. But that varies with every country, every trade deal. For things from the US there is no minimum for example
– Levels of duties also vary by the category of the thing being imported. Countries often put higher duties on things that they already make, in order to protect those industries
So you can see why it’s complicated.
Often, this calculator is useful if you just want to check something every time
Hi Simon
Do you know what clothes (apart from his shirt) and shoes Justin is wearing in the pictures above? Also, do you know the collar style on Justin’s shirt?
You could make a note of this at the end of your future articles. Similar to how you mention whatever you’re wearing.
Thanks
Rejath
Thanks Rejath, yes sure. I’ll ask Justin now
Justin is wearing:
– Ascot Chang bespoke suit, in Zegna Traveller Glen Check 36203 (number may be an HK agent reference)
– Drake’s for Armoury tie from many years ago
– Nackymade glasses (doesn’t know the model name)
– Ascot Chang shirt, their normal tab collar but cut a little higher as Justin has a slightly longer neck (if anyone wants the same they can ask for Justin’s tab collar in store!)
‘For a manufactured shirt, the things to watch out for are elements like fine stitching and pattern matching’
I’m by no means an expert but understood Turnbull and Asser don’t pay so much attention to pattern matching in some areas. I therefore wondered if they should be regarded poorly, whether it actually matters or if there is some reason for it?
My delightful friend AI came up with the following:
‘The “Comfort over Optics” Philosophy
Turnbull & Asser prioritizes how a shirt moves over how it looks on a hanger.
• The Bias-Cut Yoke: T&A famously cuts their yokes on the bias (at a 45-degree angle). This adds mechanical “stretch” to the fabric, allowing for better movement across the shoulders. Because the fabric is turned at an angle, it is physically impossible to match the stripes of a bias-cut yoke with the vertical stripes of the shirt back or sleeves.
• Shoulder Gathers: Unlike many modern “slim-fit” makers who use flat seams, T&A uses shirring (gathers) at the shoulder and cuff. This creates a tiny “ballooning” effect that provides a greater range of motion. You cannot pattern-match across a gathered seam; the folds inherently break the line of the stripe.’
Thanks GH. Yes, if there is lots of gathering at the top of a sleeve then patterns can’t be matched there. However, that fullness can actually be worked in around the rest of the armhole – it doesn’t have to be at the top. So I wouldn’t say that was necessarily accurate.
The bias-cut yoke does make a difference, although you wouldn’t expect stripes to ever match on the yoke and the back, because even if not on the bias, the two would be running perpendicular to each other. Also, when the two sides of the yoke are cut on the bias, it’s actually quite a nice piece of pattern matching having the two meet perfectly in the middle of the yoke.
Generally, pattern matching is not a functional point only aesthetic, but it can be a good indicator of how much care has been taken generally on the garment.
Nice article, Simon. Do you happen to know where Justin’s glasses are from?
I don’t Michael, but I can ask
They’re from Nackymade, the Japanese artisan
Thank you, Simon
Over thirty years ago I worked for an apparel manufacturer in Pennsylvania, although not a high end maker. But I found the picture of the woman in the orange shirt at the cluttered workspace to be vaguely comforting. Nothing much changes in a cut and sew operation! Great article.
Shirt cleaning has always been problematic. I do not iron so I have to send my shirts to be cleaned. Mother of pearl buttons often do not fare well at commercial laundries or dry cleaners. And like everything else the price goes up every year. Do you launder your shirts at home or do you send them out?
I launder at home. It’s much rarer for people to send their shirts out in the UK
I used to live in the USA and everybody sent their shirts to the laundry. Disaster incarnate.
Back here in the uk I am lucky to have a mother and daughter team who collect your shirts, wash them in a domestic machine, iron them by hand and deliver them back on hangers. Minimum batch size is 20 shirts (easily done) and l pay £2.25 per shirt.
Beat that!!
Interesting! Do you just machine wash cold, hang dry, then iron?
Not cold, 30 or 40 degrees, but yes
Will visit Hong Kong for 2 days next week. I wonder if its possible to get a MTM shirt made and sent.
I would imagine so, reach out to them
Dear Simon, speaking of shirts, can you make an article about how you launder them? This may sound banal, yet the more experienced I get and the better shirts I have, the more I think about it. What detergent do you use? What colour of shirts so you launder together? Do you wash your shirts with blue stripes on a white base with your white shirts or with litght blue ones? How do you treat staines on fine shirts? Thank you.
Sure, no problem
Thanks. I’m looking forward.
I am looking forward to Simon’s take on this. Here is mine, as suggested by my shirt maker (Siniscalchi)
– wash all together at 40 degrees except solid whites which I do at 60 (better for getting out stains). I don’t have any shirts that are dark: they are all some combination of white, light blue and pink and I’ve never had any problem washing them together.
– spin at lowest numbers of revs possible (400 on my machine). This is because they get less wrinkled during the spin cycle, which makes it easier to iron later
– I use normal persol detergent because the one I prefer (Chanteclair Sapone di Marsiglia is sold in Italy but not in Switzerland where I live).
– put on hangers to dry, since they don’t wrinkle this way.
– iron with no steam (use spray bottle if needed to get out wrinkles). Siniscalchi is quite insistent that steam ironing, especially with pressure, is bad for fabric.
I also wash my shirts roughly the same way as you Andrew, but if I put more than five shirts together, after the cycle is done I find a big entanglement of shirt sleeves, and I am worried that this causes the fabric to pull in an undesired way, especially during the spin cycle. Have you ever encountered this problem?
They definitely get tangled but I haven’t noticed stretching. I don’t wash shirts like polos or anything very delicate late that, and I have never experienced stretching with oxford or poplin.
Simon, is there anywhere at all in London where one can see rolls of shirting fabric like this? – it’s SO MUCH BETTER THAN SWATCHES(!)
At some makers you can, though not anywhere near this scale. I hear Frank Foster has some bolts for example and some other makers have a few
Simon,
Please consider a review of Hamilton Shirts in Houston if you ever make it out there. Would be curious to hear your review. I do believe they are more in the machine make production lane a la Ascot Chang than the handmade production lane of Luca, etc.
Cheers,
Rand
I commissioned half a dozen bespoke shirts with Ascot Chan in Hong Kong a several years ago. They suggested making the (double) cuff slightly bigger on the left side, to accommodate my watch. When the shirts were delivered, one cuff had indeed been made bigger on all the shirts, but on the right side… They happily fixed this but then I found out that this was not such a good idea after all, as the left cuff systematically caught in my jacket sleeves. Disappointing. I now get all my shirts made by Javier at Sánchez-Caro in Madrid. They are cheaper, the workmanship is excellent, and I have never had any issues.
Amazing tie Justin is wearing. may you share who made it?
See comments above, Tjano, his outfit is listed there
Not strictly shirt related, but I’m happy to plug the polo by The Armoury & Ascot Chang. Good mix of fabric, manufacturing quality and design (with a collar that holds up under a jacket).
hi simon
i have a vintage ascot chang shirt but the cuff is too wide.
Is this something that could be fixed?
i
Not easily, no. Ideally you’d remake one with the original fabric, but it sounds like that won’t be possible. Someone could take off the cuff and cut it down, but it would have marks where the stitching was.
Have you tried moving the button, so it fastens a little more closed?
The gentleman in the blue and white tie is a fine advertisement for the company.
What a nice article:I lived in HK for 21y but never used AC as it seemed too commercial. I opted instead for 2 or 3 smaller tailors one of whom was a military specialist with whom I made tartan trews and some evening wear. I am now in Bangkok and my local tailor where I have shorts made has rolls and I agree that it helps in the choosing: a swatch or a cut cannot offer the view of a full sized garment in pattern, colour or texture which a roll can. My man here will loosen a couple of metres for me to look at which always helps.
Hi Nick, when in HK, did you land on someone good to make bespoke shirts at a reasonable price? Many thanks in advance.