Entirely handmade shoes are not cheap. The high-end benchmade shoes are hand-clicked and hand-lasted, but not hand-welted. In this country, most of the entirely handmade ones are made bespoke. And that makes them even more expensive, as the shoe is being made unique to your foot, as well as being constructed by hand.
Most entirely handmade shoes are pushing £1000 or more. Laszlo Vass of shoemakers Vass in Hungary is one exception, but then unless you want a pair of shoes you haven’t tried on, you have to go to Budapest.
One exception has recently popped out of the brickwork. His name is Clifford Roberts and he worked for one of Northampton’s biggest shoemakers for 30 years (though he won’t say which for the sake of discretion). Having left that firm, he now makes handmade shoes from his house, just outside the town. And they start at £290. Less than £300 for entirely handmade shoes.
Since he was first discovered, on eBay and by the members of a discussion here, the timeline for the work has extended for six weeks to twelve. But that is still a lot quicker than the five months it takes, for example, for a pair of made-to-order Gaziano & Girling shoes.
Several members of the forum have made their own orders and reported their results. The quality of the leather seems to be good, the fit equally good and all the work (noticeably, the welting) all done by hand. There have been one or two criticisms that the lasts Cliff works on are ‘blobby’, but this is only one of the three or four shapes he works with – and besides, it is a question of taste.
Now, the dream of any shoe geek is to be able to get bespoke handmade shoes at an affordable price. If Cliff can make handmade shoes, is there any way he can do bespoke? Well, in theory yes.
Pretty much all the lasts in this country are made by Spring Line in Northampton. The only remaining last-maker in Britain, the company makes wood and plastic lasts for everyone from Nike to Edward Green. They will make you a bespoke last for around £190 – just send them a 2D foot draft or a 3D foot scan.
The first of these methods of measurement should be done after requesting specific instructions from Spring Line. Or, ideally, by getting an experienced shoemaker to make a draft of your feet. The second method, though, is pretty easy to accomplish. Just go along to Lodger, the new shoe company on Clifford Street that has been mentioned on this site before. They use an electronic scanning and imaging machine to build up a 3D picture of your foot. It’s for their shoes, but they won’t mind doing it for your own use as well.
So measurements from Lodger, a bespoke last from Spring Line and then handmade shoes on that last from Cliff Roberts. Bespoke shoes for less than £500?
Well, not quite. You see, bespoke shoemaking is not that straightforward. No one gets your last and shoe right the first time. If you have a bespoke pair of shoes made at, say, Foster & Son, the process will involve several fittings. First you will get a trial shoe, only half made or constructed in a cheap leather than can be thrown away afterwards. You try that, you make a few comments and the last is adjusted accordingly. Even when the final shoe is constructed it can be altered, and often the last will be tweaked slightly for the next order.
So to recreate this experience at Spring Line would take more than one visit to Northampton. For someone in the UK, this makes it a little tiresome. For someone in the US, it makes it impossible or very expensive – particularly given the extra steps and communication between the two craftsmen, of lasts and of shoes, that wouldn’t be needed at a bespoke shoemaker.
The other catch, of course, is that your last could only be in one toe shape. If you are at all interested in design, this could be a constriction. You could have another last made, but it would cost another £190.
Now if you already have a bespoke last you are happy with, you’re sorted. Just send it to Cliff with some instructions. Very few shoemakers will do made-to-order shoes on a bespoke last – they would rather you went through their bespoke service. But Cliff will do it for the same price.
Also, if you have very unusual feet (and live in the UK) it is still probably worth the effort to work with Spring Line and Cliff to get a last you are happy with. If you don’t, then (blasphemous as it is to say) ready-to-wear shoes are a good bet. The advantages of bespoke are not the same for everyone.
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Simon
I hate to burst the bubble, but there is no such thing as an `affordable` pair of handsewn bespoke shoes. You are seeking the shoe equivalent of the four leaf clover! I wish Cliff well, but to be offering handsewn shoes for just £300 I can’t see how he is going to easily make a living.
Let’s switch things on their head and look at this from a makers point of view. Bearing in mind that – discounting the fittings, patterns and uppers – a maker takes on average two days to actually handsew the shoes (if it is all properly done by hand) then £300 isn’t much of an income.
Trust me I know – I’m a shoemaker!
Lobb trained, our bespoke handsewn shoes start at £1500. We just can’t make good quality bespoke and offer excellent customer service for anything less. It wouldn’t be a viable business.
If like us (yup sightly vested interest) you want English handsewn shoemaking to thrive, forget the idea of affordable and think investment. Bite the bullet and invest in a fantastic pair of handsewn bespoke that you’ll be proud of for decades to come.
Or buy some beautiful English made ready-to-wear – we do those too!
Comment by deborah carre — June 10, 2009 #
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Deborah,
Many thanks for your very informed input, you obviously speak from a lot of experience.
All the evidence I have, a lot of photographic and reports from several clients that have visited Cliff, is that the shoes are entirely handsewn.
Simon
Comment by Simon Crompton — June 10, 2009 #
I think that like in a suit a bespoke pair of shoes must be tried at least a couple of times before they can be called bespoke. To me it seems prety difficult for any shomaker to make a perfect pair of bespoke shoes with only some measurements. The client should try the shoes at least once.
Talking about price I must desagree somehow with Deborah. I spent few hours with Eva Vass last Easter in Bupapest. I have seen how they make shoes and if they can offer these lovey shoes at a very competitive price and they make a living from it, it is just because some reputables brands are making a fortune from their bespoke shoes.
If Vass, as I was told by Eva Vass and as I write in my web http://www.elaristocrata.com, can offer bespoke shoes starting something like 580€ is because they can be done. Probably no 350€ but for sure no 3.000 as many Lobb cost. In Lobb you pay quality, name, nice, high rent shop….. and probably in Vass you only pay quality.
Congratulations for your blog
Springline are not the only last makers in the uk.
“BOBCOL” of Norwich make lasts, shoe trees and wooden heels!!!
We all love shoes and no matter how many we own, we still end up buying some more. I’m always looking for new shoes and that aren’t those expensive. Although it is not possible to constantly spend money on new shoes, we can certainly have the right to own shoes that make us feel comfortable but are also easily affordable on any budget. Lately I found all that at Shoehustler
http://www.shoehustler.com
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ohhh, i like this
I purchased a pair of bespoke shoes from http://www.adlershoes.co.uk – they send me special casting tapes which were quite easy to use to make casts of my feet and when the shoes, a pair of full brogues arrived about 2 1/2 months later, the fit was slightly close first time wearing them, but after a coupple of days the fit was perfect. The leather looks and feels right when I compare them with apair I had aquired some time ago from Green and now, that they have my last in their storage, I can order anytime and it will only take 4 weeks until dekivery – in all a most positive experience with adler shoes
Agree with the ADLER experience been a customer there for the last year and had two pairs of brogues made and they are the best value for money I can find
Recently there have been a few comments published by customers of Adler, all positive with a coupple with some reservations but none complaining about quality or service – I shall give them a try, having researched the web and found that Adlers are the best prices for bespoke shoes – I don’t buy them for any other reason but for having large, difficult feet to find shoes off the rack for
I doubt those are entirely bespoke, but I’m happy to be proven wrong. At £300 for a pair of shoes it seems likely they are bench made – which someone could legitimately call handmade but is not traditional bespoke. It is feeding the shoe by hand into a stitching or lasting machine
A friend of mine has the worse feet I have ever seen, every time I see him bare footed I get an urge to feed him a banana. Very wide in the front, bunions on both feet and a hammer toe due to an accident. He had shoes made by Adler and couldn’t be happier with the result. If those are not bespoke, I don’t know what is
I do. For full bespoke they would have to be handsewn throughout, whereas benchmade shoes make use of machinery (as with every shoemaker in Northampton). They could still use an individual last, however, so the fitting is bespoke but the make isn’t.
Just want shoes and slippers size 13
I am interested in made to made shoes
A few years ago I decided I wanted a bespoke pair of shoes. To this end I combined a holiday in Budapest with an occasion to get a pair of shoes made by Vass.
I had high hopes and the shoes in the shop looked wonderful.
As for the bespoke service, this was strange. Firstly my feet were measured using a pencil on a single piece of paper. I agreed a style and leather.
Then in due course was advised the shoes were ready. No fittings, no alteration, nothing like that. Simply that the shoes were ready and of course being bespoke they were paid for at the time of ordering.
Needless to say the shoes did not fit properly.
What could I do? I was a couple of thousand miles from home and on the last day of my holiday?
How can they make bespoke shoes without any fittings?
This is actually fairly common in Eastern Europe, and many places where there wasn’t a mechanised shoe industry for a long time. All shoes were made entirely by hand, and to order – or often bespoke. Have a read of my pieces on Polish shoemakers for an example.
Iive in Northamptonshire and looking for flip-flops for a beach bride – any help much appreciated – urgent!
Now that Lodger seems to be no more, can you recommend anywhere else to have a 3d foot scan done to enable Spring Line to make a bespoke last?
Secondly, who else beyond Cliff Roberts makes the best value shoes made to a custom last? I’m not necessarily looking for handsewn shoes, as long as they can be made to a custom last.
Hey,
Lodger never made bespoke lasts. They simply scanned the foot as an alternative to measuring, to make it more ‘accurate’. Didn’t work. The Left Shoe Company is now offering something similar – made to measure shoes, based off a foot scan. Made to measure isn’t really accurate, however. It’s made to order, with the scan helping them to measure the foot, again.
Rivolta, in Milan, tried to do real bespoke (made by Stefano Bemer) using the same scanning technology. That didn’t work for me – they made two pairs of shoes and neither fit.
My experience with Cliff Roberts wasn’t that great in the end. Nice boots initially, but they didn’t last well. Not sure if I’ve reflected that anywhere in posts. He now works at C&J among other things. Bumped into him in the factory.
Don’t know anyone else I’m afraid… Look out for my post on Tim Little today, however. He’s a good option for bespoke.
Simon
Got Cliff Roberts shoes today. Really love them! However, it took … more than a year to make them. Therefore, I sm not sure if will be ordering again. I’m now thinking about Vass and J. Adler.
By the way, he does not make bespoke shoes any more, only made-to-order: you choose the style, then he uses his own lasts to make the shoes.
I didn’t think he ever did bespoke? He’s not a last maker
Also trialling Adler at the moment by the way, so we’ll see how that turns out
Simon, do you have any news to report back about Adler?
Nope
Where can I get hold of Cliff Roberts?
You can find his email in AskAndyAboutClothes forum, but it is written so that could not be recognized by a robot (to avoid spam).
By the way, I have two pairs from Cliff, both worn out after slightly over one year of use. And he does made-to-order shoes, i.e. you choose how they will look like, and he makes them for you using his own lasts. They will look like you want, but I cannot comment on quality. I will try Vass now. Also, it is true about Springline lasts – they make lasts to almost any shoemaker in the UK, but they are not great for bespoke – bespoke shoemakers, to my knowledge, order lasts from Springline, but then correct them for more accurate fitting. I used Springline only once, the lasts ar smaller than my fit, so cheap side is cheap. I want to try 3D scan to see if Vass can do better job
Gorgeous shoes!
Hi, stumbled across this as I have a pair of my mother’s heels from the 70s that have had their last day (leather is coming off in shavings). I love the shape though and haven’t seen anything contemporary like them. Would anyone have any suggestions for where I could get a copy made for a reasonable price (i.e. not ‘bespoke’ prices!)? Are there countries where this kind of thing is cheaper (like tailoring in certain parts of SE Asia)? Thanks!
Hi Laura,
to my knowledge, it is impossible to copy shoes. Shoe making almost always involves a shoe last (except probably for some slippers or flipflops). I’m afraid, but I see no solution at the moment for your quest. Someone else might step in with some ideas.