Made-to-order Anthology shirt: Review

Monday, October 21st 2024
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The Anthology has an interesting shirt offering that I only really discovered recently. Perhaps because it’s not that clearly flagged up on the website. 

You can get most of their shirts to order, selecting a size that determines the chest and the collar but then specifying the waist, sleeve length and body length. For someone like me, who is a fairly regular size but often wants a slimmer waist and a longer body than standard, it could be very useful. 

Delivery takes three weeks, which is fast enough for most people and certainly quicker than anyone doing made-to-measure. Although this is the other way - the negative way - to see their system: very little is held as stock, almost everything has to be made to order. So there’s a trade-off there between speed and customisation. 

There are some other aspects to this - upsides and downsides - but let’s first cover what I ordered and how it turned out. 

The Anthology do trunk shows in London and New York, and at those they will happily measure you for a shirt (MTO or bespoke). But I wanted to try just the online service, without any help. 

I decided to try the ‘deep olive one-piece collar’ shirt, as I really like that deep murky shade of green. I did this back in the summer by the way, so linen wasn’t a crazy choice. 

I took the bespoke shirt of mine that I liked the fit of best, and compared the measurements to those on the Anthology website. This is what I found:

Collar/chest:

  • My bespoke shirt had a measurement of 39.5cm on the collar and 112cm in the chest
  • This doesn’t perfectly align with The Anthology’s block, as they have 39cm and 40cm collar options, not one in between
  • I decided to go with the 40cm collar, in order to keep the 112cm chest of my bespoke. I wouldn’t wear this style with a tie anyway, so the collar is less important 
  • There is no ability to alter the collar or chest in relation to each other though, so others may have to compromise more

Waist:

  • For the 40cm collar I picked, the default waist size was 100cm, which is exactly what my bespoke one measured
  • This was interesting, because as we’ve covered on PS before, a few years ago I would have gone for more like 97cm
  • So there was no need to alter the waist, but I could have increased or decreased it by 4cm if I wanted
  • It is possible to change the proportions more than this, The Anthology explained to me afterwards, but they limit it to 4cm as few people need more than that, and in that case they would prefer the customer to get in touch with them to confirm they’re measuring correctly
  • The size chart on every page shows where the measurements should be taken, and there is a video walking through the process. Although it could be clearer exactly where the waist should be measured 

Sleeve:

  • This is where things got a bit odd. My bespoke shirt measured 66cm and the Anthology’s default was 62cm, so I was at the absolute maximum of what could be added
  • I know I’m not that different to average, so I was worried I’d measured something wrong (despite going off the size chart). So at this point I got in touch with them to check I was doing it right
  • They confirmed I was, and it was just that the limits were partly based on Asian sizing, where the arms are rather shorter
  • I guess this could be communicated better, and it means some people in the West will be beyond the maximum sleeve length. But the team were helpful and as mentioned before, could add any amount required

Shoulder:

  • This was 49cm on my bespoke, and 46.7cm on the Anthology default
  • Like the chest, this can’t be altered, so I did consider sizing up, but in the end decided against it as the seam position makes less of a difference than the chest size

Length:

  • My bespoke was 81cm in the back length, and the Anthology default 78cm
  • So this is one area where I clearly benefit from the system, even with western sizing - my height (184cm) means a lot of ready-made shirts are short on me. I added the 3cm I wanted 

The resulting shirt, three weeks later, was exactly what I ordered. I also liked the colour and other aspects of the style. The only thing I didn’t like so much was the one-piece collar - not that there was anything wrong with The Anthology’s version, but I’ve slightly gone off the collar in general. 

One-piece collars were interesting when they first became popular, and the appeal of something subtly unusual, rolling open in a smooth unbroken curve, remains. Look at my old one from Marol, and I think you can see how well this works. 

But there are a some disadvantages. The back of the placket has a habit of flipping out (see image below) and when worn on their own, without a jacket, one-piece collars are a little less subtle. 

The Anthology’s version is better than most, but my view today is that they’re a nice alternative to have in the wardrobe - a second white-linen shirt when you already have one white-linen shirt - rather than a default. Given I’m only going to have one olive linen shirt, I’d prefer it to have a regular collar. 

This brings us onto the other disadvantage of this service, which is that The Anthology don’t offer a big range of classic, everyday shirts. Yes, there is a white and blue oxford, and a few blue-stripe poplins, but I couldn’t get my olive linen in a regular collar, the white spread collar is a cotton-linen rather than a pure cotton, the pure cotton a point collar. 

Compared to someone like Anglo-Italian or Natalino, The Anthology’s range is more varied and more unusual. There are some classics in there, but the brand’s strength is (for me) the interesting stripes and unusual fabrics - this deep olive, the beige/white linen, the red ‘Workman’ shirt

In fact, there is a particular appeal in workwear-like shirts such as the Workman. Because if you go to a classic shirtmaker they will usually only have fine shirtings from the likes of Thomas Mason, Alumo or Canclini, and will be used to making business styles. Ask them to source a rugged chambray, or make with double stitching and teardrop pockets, and they will struggle. 

I like work shirts but ready-made ones don’t always fit me so well. The Anthology’s offering could be useful there, and I might try one of their Workman shirts next. (Bryceland’s also offer this, as does someone like Gitman Bros at their trunk shows.)

The only other thing I found hard with the Anthology service was shrinkage. Some fabrics shrink more than others, and there isn’t any guidance on particular shirts about this. My linen has been fine, but I know others will shrink more. 

If in doubt, I’d say contact the team and ask their advice. They also made it clear to me that the MTO service is designed mostly for repeat customers - that’s where it works best, when someone knows the Anthology shirts and wants to be able to order something remotely, with a particular fit. 

I think that’s fair - it’s never going to compare to the fit or range of fabrics you can get with bespoke or MTM. It’s more an enhancement, both in terms of fit and convenience, on the style and product of a brand you already like. 

My shirt cost $230 (the quoted price is for MTO, as these can shirts can only be made to order, as mentioned). The only shirt that is not made-to-order currently is the 'Big Man' style. 

Note: This also means shirts cannot be returned or exchanged. So a risk there, although I know from friends The Anthology readily make a new shirt if there is any kind of mistake. Again, it’s a reason why it works best for repeat customers

Clothes shown: Ciardi bespoke jacket in Anglo-Italian cloth, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury trousers in Fox Flannel cloth, Ludens crocodile belt, Gaziano & Girling bespoke alligator shoes

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Gaurav

Hi Simon
Jumping on this post to let you know the previous article on the Real McCoy’s jacket isn’t loading.
When one clicks on the article a pop-up “Please wait while your request is being verified” appears before you are redirected to the homepage.
Thanks,
Gaurav

Sam

I have the same issue (thought it was maybe on my side). And also when trying to access the shop.
Hope its not too tricky to fix.
Cheers,

Ladislav

Just tried it now and still the same: “Please wait while your request is being verified” and then follows the redirect to homepage.

Ladislav

Thank you for your advice. Shift+F5 during the “Please wait while your request is being verified” phase seems to fix the problem. Now it is accessible again.

Alfie

I had a slightly tricky experience here.

The sizing ended up being too slim, but that is a product of having an “athletic” build. I am a bit disappointed in size of chest vs collar though.

Zha

i also find one-piece collar frustrating when wearing it under a jacket. Wool-silk-linen, hopsack, corduroy — yet still the collar looked so casual and out of place. I guess it just has a rather narrow application and one needs to have the right fabric for it(mine was cotton linen and the collar just lost its shape very quickly).

Chris

I agree. They have something of a medallion man feel to them.

Gab

Hi Simon, what do you think of the make? I only had good experiences with the anthology. I once ordered a MTM shirt which ended up having a detail I did not like (the seam color contrasted too much). It was a 50/50 mistake but they did another one right away for free.

Martins

They have this offering for a reallly long time. I looked into it, but im sure id need size 45 collar on 43 body with longer sleeves which wasnt (and still isnt) possible, so i got some shirts from simone abbaracci.

Alfred N

Thanks for this – and undergoing this “experiment” for your readers – the colour of the shirt is lovely especially in this linen and I can imagine wearing it a number of ways. This is a service I am quite keen to try. Just a couple of nits:

  • under chest/collar, you say “My bespoke shirt had a measurement of 39.5cm in the chest and 112cm on the collar” – surely the other way around
  • under sleeves, you say “I was at the absolute maximum of what could be added” – I guess you mean “recommended to be added”, as it seems there is no actual maximum?
Mark

I’ve used this service, but admittedly I’m a bespoke customer and TA dealt with all the merriments for me. The resulting shirt is very good – on par with the fit of some of my bespoke shirts – and I think there’s probably room for further improvement on the fit. TA are happy for me to take the finished shirt to one of their trunk shows and they’ll have a look at the fit, then suggest any amends to the measurements for further MTO shirts. At the price point, it feels like a very good offering with some really nice fabric choices.
But all of that being said, I’d never have the confidence to do the measurements myself!

Mark

Ha – the dangers of typing on an iPhone – “measurements”, rather!

Burt

TA reads like Turnbull & Asser 🙂

Lindsay McKee

Off topic , there may be a glitch on your webpage. When I use the search facility a box comes up stating “please wait while your request is being processed” and returns to the home page.
I just making you aware of that.
Thanks
Lindsay

Lindsay McKee

Many thanks
Lindsay

Lindsay McKee

Super! Will do

Omar Asif

I don’t understand why Anthology or other MTO/MTM makers don’t shrink the fabric before cutting and sewing the shirts, it takes all guess work out from different fabrics shrinking differently after washing. Further shrinkage post washing then is minimal and much easier to account for in the size.

Rejath

Hi Simon
Would you ever consider reviewing any of your Alligator shoes?
Regards
Rejath

Martins

An idea for another “how great things age”?

Lachie

Agreed – in view of the recent conversation about exotic skins on the belts article, it would be interesting to hear about exotics for footwear.

Markus S

Following Manish’s recommendation in his article about chambray shirts, I ordered the Workman Vanilla Raw Chambray Shirt from The Anthology a few months ago.

The workmanship is very good and I really like the design and the colour of the shirt, which I couldn’t find anywhere else. As you write, I think this is a real strength of The Anthology, to have good and slightly unusual designs in slightly unusal but subtle and tasteful colours. They hit casual chic with a slight hint of workwear style very well (I also have two of their t-shirts and the olive drawstring linen trousers). 

For me, and perhaps for other readers, the MTO process was a bit difficult to handle. I ended up just taking the measurements of a PS Oxford shirt from your website and using them. I guess if you have a custom shirt like you do, the MTO process might offer a better value.

Fernando

Cool. Seems like you didn’t have that much of a problem with the shoulder slope. Considering you have pretty sloped shoulders this is surprising

J Crewless

The jacket and shirt colour combo is one that works quite well.

Chris

Hello, Simon. I have personally been very pleased using this service from The Anthology with their Workman shirt. Enough so that I purchased a second one. And I tend to agree with your thoughts on the one-piece collar in general. Though I have not tried that style from The Anthology, I have bought from another well known house. Mine is very well executed and the make is good. I like the look of it, until I put in on. While it may work well for others, it just does not for me. I felt the need to constantly re-adjust throughout the day.

Matt

Slightly off topic but does anyone know if Anglo-Italian have permanently ditched their MTO shirt service – it seems to have disappeared from their website in the last couple of months? Thanks in advance.

Kent

Good question. I had noticed that too. IIRC Drake’s used to offer a MTM/MTO service but there’s only RTW on the website now. There are fewer quality RTW, MTM and bespoke options in London now compared to 10-20 years ago. On Jermyn Street, Harvie & Hudson and New & Lingwood are only RTW too. Grosvenor Shirts, TM Lewin and Coles are long gone. Thomas Pink and Hawes & Curtis went downmarket after being taken over. It would be very useful to have an up-to-date London shirtmakers guide.

Michael

Hi Simon – one thing I really liked about the Anthology offering was the lightweight oxford cloth (I think it’s especially useful if you’re wanting a more casual fabric, which you can layer with something like a Rubato knit and not overheat). I plain white version of this would be amazing.
I don’t suppose you or anyone else would have cloth recommendations (obviously specific is tricky, but if there’s even bunches I’m missing out on I’d be very grateful to hear).
My experience with the shirting has been good, with a clear improvement. First shirt was a lightweight oxford, really like the style and proportions generally. I’ve noticed sleeve length was possibly a bit short for me. I genuinely don’t know if that was due to shrinkage or potential change in my measurements around chest. I do get tightness in shoulders quite a bit, as I think I’m between conventional 41 / 42 sizing.
I mentioned this to the guys and had suggested tweaks made for two other shirts which have fitted much more comfortably (I find very small changes go a long way for me re sleeve length and tightness around shoulder in particular). Going forwards I’ll be cold washing the shirts only, as I’m not 100% certain how much of an issue shrinkage can cause.

Michael

Apologies Simon, I buried a request in there without clearly signposting it.

Do you have any recommendations for a lightweight oxford cloth in plain colours – white in particular?
If anyone else does all suggestions gratefully received!

Michael

It is amazing too! I saw it at one of the pop ups and the buttons on white was fantastic, but I’d melt with a jumper on top of it when indoors.

MBB355

The Drakes pinpoint oxford is one of my favorite shirts–textured but lightweight, in a broad range of colors, with a great fit and a perfect collar. My spring-summer counterpart to the PS Oxfords.

Michael

It’s a great shout and fully agree with you MBB355. Unfortunately for me I find that I’m between sizes with Drakes. The 41 is definitely closes but my shoulders feel pinched and it hikes up the sleeves just enough to make them feel just too short.

Kevin

Thank you, Simon. I’ve been thinking of using this service myself for one of The Anthology’s denim or raw chambray shirts (or both, perhaps…I can’t seem to get enough of that family of shirting fabrics recently), so thank you for the in-depth review.
An aside: it’s very interesting (and inspiring) to see a linen shirt worn like this with autumnal textures and weights, later in the year. I have a shirt in a similar shade from Drake’s that didn’t see enough wear this summer — this article inspires me to try it with knits or a tweed before I stow it away for the winter, which I certainly wouldn’t have thought to do otherwise. Thanks again.

Jose

Timely article for me, as I have been considering ordering a couple of OCBDs, and they are one of the brands I am considering. I am not a return customer, so the no returns exchanges is what has prevented me from ordering already. I know my measurements, but I am a bit stuck choosing between two sizes.

Greg

Hi Simon

Given that the one piece collar is very much at the casual end of the formality spectrum ( it is sometimes referred to as a holiday collar ) isn’t it clashing here with trousers ( flannel ) and a fairly formal coat?
Thanks
Greg

Greg

Thanks. I picked up the reference from one of your older posts about collar styles, where you referred to the one piece collar as ” appreciatively casual”. So my question was more about the style of collar, rather than the fabric (ie linen vs chambary and denim).
Cheers
Greg

Zha

Hi, Simon
Based on your reply, would it be fair to say the true appeal of one-piece collar is merely its difference from the more obvious choices for smart shirts i.e. spreads and.

Zha

* spreads and button-downs?

James

Forgive me for asking, Simon: you mention you’ve trended towards a roomier waist and that The Anthology’s default for your neck size was 110cm. It looks to be 100cm on their website?

Mr Spears

Simon, you’re so good at putting together casual tailored outfits that are interesting without being flashy. I find this requires a much larger and more diverse wardrobe than 5 years ago when a few business suits, shirts, and ties would suffice for most of the week. Perhaps an idea for a future article – I suspect your wardrobe must have grown significantly and you’re wearing individual pieces much less frequently.

Robert M

Thanks for this, Simon. I’ve noticed that option before but was discouraged when I noticed you could only add 4 cm, whereas for sleeves I need +10-11 cm. Good to know, then, that they can do more, although perhaps it should be better described on the website.

You say Brycelands does something like this too? I don’t see anything on their website.

bogdan

hi Simon, just to clarify, does the shirt fit you well enough in the shoulders? that seemed like a big difference from your bespoke, and i’m afraid i would have the same issue with their measurements of chest versus shoulders

W

Hi Simon, taking up your comments on preferring a slimmer waist and longer body than you often get on standard sizes, may I ask, is this mainly/partly to do with how nicely the shirt tucks-in and how effectively it stays tucked?
And on that topic, do you have any experience of, or thoughts on, having rubberised grip-tape sewn inside trouser waistbands, or other such “novel” solutions to keeping a shirt nicely tucked-in all day?!

Noel

Simon, what’s the rationale when deciding what pictures to in the look book? I quite like the outfit in this article but it doesn’t seem to have made t to the look book.

Markus S

As the lookbook sometimes seems to be overlooked by readers, I would like to emphasize that I find it extremely helpful. Especially for color combinations.

In fact, I sometimes open it in the morning and see if a particular combination makes sense.

JSB

I’m sure you must have stated this somewhere on your posts, but would you mind sharing how much slack you have on your chest and waist measurements compared with the actual chest and waist measurement.

I ask this especially in light of the fact that you now appear to prefer a slightly relaxed fit and if you could indulge us, how much has this slack changed from say, 5 years ago?

Many thanks as always.

JSB

Not sure how I missed that (or should I say forgot about that article). Thanks for the back reference. Very helpful.

John

Hi Simon,
A lovely outfit! It’s very chic!
John     

Edwin

Hi Simon,

You mention your collar on bespoke is 39.5 cm. Is this measured with the collar flat on the ground? And from button to the end of the buttonhole?
As someone who is trying to learn the ideal measurements for specific parts of suits / shirts / pants it would be great to know how the 39.5 cm relates to your actual neck size when measured with a measuring tape.
Thanks in advance Simon!

Edwin Rothengatter

Cheers and thanks for the insight Simon!
Have a great weekend!

Joe P

I found this article especially interesting, Simon, having gone through the process for the first time myself not too long ago; like a reader above, I bought the Vanilla Chambray Workman after Manish mentioned it in a piece.

It’s definitely not like ordering a RTW shirt (which is the only experience I have: I own no bespoke shirts), and the fact you can change some measurements but not others, as you point out, is a bit confusing. There’s also the added jeopardy that getting it wrong has more repercussions than, say, ordering one online from Anglo: the whole taxes situation (when ordering to the UK, as I did) is a bit confusing, plus the fact that it being MTO means you can’t return it; if it arrives and it’s really unwearable that would feel like quite a gut punch.

And yet, and yet… I found I really enjoyed the process. The Anthology team could not have been more helpful, or patient: I think I sent six or seven emails, with various questions, and they replied thoughtfully to each one – particularly on the question around sleeve length, which like you I definitely found the most confusing element. It’s probably the best customer service I’ve experienced in quite a while, and went a long way to convincing me to buy the shirt in the end. Couple that with what is clearly a brand with exceptional taste and overall style (I want so many things on their site) and I was sold.

The other reason was the fabric: as you point out, they have some more unusual choices compared to other brands, but they’re in no way wild or out there. The vanilla chambray is subtle, really just a lovely off-white, and goes with more or less anything; it’s just ever-so-slightly different. So going through the process to get something that isn’t just a white oxford felt worthwhile.

For the record, in case helpful for anyone, I’m a similar build to you: a touch shorter at 180cm, take size 4 in all PS outerwear, medium in most things, etc. I went for the 40 cm collar, added 1cm to the waist (I’m moving more and more towards more relaxed fits with shirts), 1cm to back length and 2cm to the sleeve. I wasn’t sure about shrinkage, and there hasn’t really been any (I only ever wash on 30 degrees). In future I’d probably add one more cm to both back length and sleeve, but I’m perfectly happy with what I got. I’m tempted by their dusty yellow oxford, and knowing that oxford fabrics shrink perhaps more than others like a chambray, I’d potentially go with the 41cm collar and work out sizings from there. A looser fit would I’d hope suit the style as well.

One thing you don’t touch on is value. Shirt plus delivery to the UK cost me $218, which in pounds is roughly £167 – no extra taxes were added. I think that’s an exceptionally good price, all things considered.

Victor Silverio

Great article Simon. I’m about to order a shirt and I have a practical question about measurements. Maybe this is obvious but I guess it can be helpful to others readers.

Did you specify the same sleeve length as your bespoke shirt, despite the shoulders being narrower on The Anthology’s shirt? Shouldn’t the sleeves be longer in this case? Apologies if I misread something.

My best fitting shirt has 44cm at the shoulders (point to point) and 62cm sleeves. My collar size is 40, which gives me 46.7cm shoulders and 62cm sleeves (as standard) at Anthology. I’m planning on adjusting sleeves by -1cm to compensate for the wider shoulders.

Does this make sense? The difference is small in this case, but can one assume that shoulder + sleeve measurement should be consistent across different shirts? So that the cuff ends at the same point. Just as a best estimate for remote MTM orders.

Krzysztof

Hi Simon. Do you have experience wearing Lazyman or Goodman jackets of The Anthology? If yes, what size would you choose for yourself from RTW? Asking as my chest size is roughly the same as yours.