My first bespoke overcoat
By Manish Puri.
Spring is well and truly here in London.
I’ve just returned from a stroll through my local green which was fizzing with people enjoying cold beers and iced coffees. Through the window I can see my neighbour scraping last year’s chargrilled residue from his barbeque, and from the way he’s mopping his brow I suspect he’s cursing himself for not doing this before putting it into hibernation.
The theme for Match of the Day pierces the air as an ice cream van rounds the corner. The Pavlovian lure of the bells is strong, and before the chime has ended a small queue of eager children has formed to buy ice creams as big as their heads.
So, naturally I’m here to tell you about my bespoke winter overcoat.
It’s a special one for me in a number of ways - not least because it’s my first ever bespoke overcoat commission, made by the lovely team at Whitcomb & Shaftesbury.
I’ll save a more detailed review of the coat for a future article.
Today, given this was my first such commission, I thought it might be helpful to talk readers through my process in deciding what to go for, as well as the process with Whitcomb.
So why Whitcomb & Shaftesbury? Well, a few reasons actually.
First, I’ve always admired the coat wardrobe of my fellow PS columnist Aleks Cvetkovic, and one of his best - an Ulster coat in rich chocolatey Donegal tweed (above) - was made by Whitcomb & Shaftesbury. When it comes to making serious clothing decisions, nothing beats seeing a garment first hand, or getting some trusted advice.
Secondly, Simon has long praised Whitcomb & Shaftesbury for their consistent delivery of “quality and value”, and having received and worn my coat over the last few months it’s been a joy to read about his visit to the Chennai workshop and the tailors who work so hard to maintain those levels (below).
Finally, I’d had the good fortune to meet Suresh (co-founder - below with Simon) and Sian (head cutter) socially, and found them to be lovely, easygoing people. Of course, this doesn’t qualify you as a master tailor (I’m sure many a nice suit has been cut by utter bastards), but I think life’s too short (and the bespoke process too long) to work with people whose company you don’t enjoy.
The choice of colour was something I grappled with for some time, a conundrum verging on the philosophical: to be (a little unusual), or not to be (a little unusual).
Were a sartorial apocalypse to ravage all our wardrobes tomorrow - a simultaneously terrifying and liberating prospect - I’d unhesitatingly advise myself and readers to get a navy DB overcoat in heavy wool to stay warm and comforted in the bleak aftermath. Something like Simon’s B&Tailor coat (below) will do very nicely indeed, thank you very much.
The problem is I currently have a navy DB overcoat, two actually - one sharp and one a more relaxed belted model. And I like them both…a lot.
So, do I opt to upgrade something from good to great? Or do I cast my gaze wider, at the sort of coat that one covets and bookmarks on Instagram, but when push-comes-to-shove (or card-comes-to-tap) is always jilted in favour of a more versatile and conservative model?
I don’t really think there’s a correct answer to these questions; a lot will depend on one’s outlook - not just on clothes, but on spending money in general. However, I do think one useful way to think about it is as an interplay between risk and reward.
The commission of a bespoke navy overcoat would be substantially less risky, but the reward perhaps isn’t quite as rich given the number of similar, quality RTW/MTM/vintage options available. In contrast, while a more unusual colour carries more risk, if you get it right the reward is potentially greater - amplified by the relative paucity of similar options on the market.
Clearly I chose the more unusual option, a pale taupe cashmere, and I’ll talk about the colour and cloth more in the review article.
By now I’m fairly well practised at commissioning MTM/bespoke suits and jackets - to the extent that I wrote a couple of articles last year on some of the lessons I’ve learned.
I thought that experience would be adequate preparation for commissioning an overcoat. I was wrong.
This is partly just a numbers game. Even a relative tailoring novice will have tried a few different sports coats and suits over the years, but they’re unlikely to have an equivalent volume of experience with coats. How can you truly know if you prefer patch pockets (above) or postbox pockets (below), when your only winter coat has side entry pockets?
This isn’t purely a rhetorical question. I genuinely struggled with the choice of pockets over a couple of fittings - flip-flopping between the options. It was here that Suresh and Sian’s experience came to the fore, patiently shepherding me toward a decision.
Their advice, only proffered when I’d been through more flip-flops than an Australian backpacker, was to consider the pleasing form of the postbox against the function of patch pockets - which tend to be a little easier to get your hands and other winter accessories in and out of.
With that in mind, I tried on a display coat with patch pockets, instinctively thrust my hands into them, and immediately realised I should opt for the more functional choice.
In a similar vein, while the fundamentals of fit and balance are largely the same as a jacket, there are just a lot more elements to consider with a coat - and those elements combined can have a dramatic impact on the style, fit and even the nature of the coat itself.
Take the lapels of a coat. The questions posed by the tailor - on width, length, belly, gorge - will be familiar to anyone that has experience commissioning clothes, but the scale (and hence the potential margin for error) is that much bigger.
Or how about the buttoning point? Across an entire range of DB jackets, you might lower and raise the buttoning point by a couple of inches at the most. Whereas on different DB coats you could conceivably move the buttoning point from the bottom of your breastbone down to your hips. Or lose the buttons altogether!
Don’t let my cheesy grin fool you, shorn of buttons and hip pockets, it was very tricky to gauge what felt like a natural buttoning point at the first fitting (above) - and Suresh noted that the straight edge of the coat wouldn’t seem as long when those elements were later added.
However, the collective view was that it could stand to be lowered. And, sensing my uncertainty, Suresh also suggested an unscheduled interim fitting a few days later - a chance for me to see the new buttoning point before forging ahead.
It was an excellent idea, and the type of modest and unhurried evolution that is only really possible when making bespoke clothes using a local tailor. (And I think it helped get the balance just right - below).
Finally, solid advice for a normal person looking to commission a first-time bespoke coat would be to start now, allowing yourself at least four months before you’re likely to need it. However, if you’re not the sharpest of shears, why not commence the process in October, like I did?
Jokes aside, my tardiness did unwittingly help with some of the design decisions, as I’d attend fittings wearing coats and winter clothes, unwittingly giving Sian visual cues that she quietly used to hone the style - in particular, noting that I prefer my coats longer. It also gave us both the opportunity to see how the different iterations of the coat looked over the clothes that I’d ultimately wear it with.
It’s not a master plan I’d recommend to readers, but it clearly had its advantages. Besides, with care, a merciless crusade against any moth that crosses my hearth, and a calorie-controlled diet, this coat should last for many many years to come, so there’s no sense in fretting about losing half a season of wear because I missed the optimal commissioning date in the annual bespoke cycle.
Manish is @the_daily_mirror on Instagram.
Photos of me in Florence by @adnatt.
Other clothes shown:
- Taillour DB suit in Fox Brothers Heritage Flannel chalkstripe
- Bryceland's MTM shirt
- Speciale Tie



































Hi Manish,
Congratulations on your beautiful new coat. I have a navy overcoat, also by W&S, which is one of my most prized possessions and just may be my favourite bespoke commission. Having said that, I have quite a few things form W&S – two suits, a jacket and several pairs of trousers – so it’s a tough choice! I completely agree with Simon’s evaluation of W&S’s quality and consistency – that’s also been my experience – and with your experience of Suresh and Sian too, who were always a joy to deal with. It’s been a while since I last commissioned something from them, but I regularly find myself speculating on what I might need (nothing!) or what I might like (where to start?!) and I think my deliberations may slowly be converging on a solution. Co-incidentally, one of the options is another overcoat in a taupeish shade to replace a very nice, but slightly too small RTW coat.
I look forward to the review of your lovely coat at some point.
Manish,
How dare you write with such flair and humor. I have no interest in getting another overcoat but can’t resist your writing style. When I look at your photos I smile because you’re that good at entertaining.
Best,
Robert
Haha! Thank you so much, Robert 😊 I really appreciate this!
Hello Manish, thanks for the article and sharing your experience
Could I ask some details on the fabric you ended up choosing and the price range for such commission?
Thank you
Hi Nicholas
Apologies, I was saving that for the review piece. However, a W&S overcoat starts from £4400 and this was £5300 (as it’s cashmere).
Thank you so much!
Hi Manish – are those prices inclusive of VAT?
@manish, just wondered if you could revert re: VAT, thank you!
Hi Paris
Sorry, prices are including VAT
Excellent advice. I only wish this article had been published a few months ago before I dropped by Paolo Martorano’s shop in NYC to commission my first bespoke overcoat, lol.
Hopefully I didn’t make too many mistakes as I deferred to Paolo for many of the decisions. I do remember opting for side entry pockets for easy entry.
I’m due for my first fitting in June in San Francisco.
Thanks Downing, I’m sure it will be great. Keep us posted please!
Cher Manish,
There isn’t anything inherently wrong with your new coat but there isn’t anything right either and I guess that’s my point.
My go to overcoat since October 2019 has been the PS V1 Donegal overcoat. It is absolutely magnificent and I’ve worn it to death on every type of occasion – formal and informal – ever since. It is simply too cool for school and no self respecting flaneur should be without one. The beast will shortly be 7 years old and I love it more than ever.
Your commission would just never engender that level of passion in me.
Regards,
David
Couldn’t not disagree with more. PS is great but once you wear bespoke it’s hard to go back.
Did you mention the price anywhere?
Hi
Sorry, I was saving that for the review article. However, I’ve added it above in reply to Nicholas 😊
Another thing to consider is the weight of the coat. My own bespoke overcoat is SB and is quite heavy even though it’s a bit shorter than Manish’s. The extra material in a DB version may well have made it too heavy for regular use.
That sir is one fine looking coat! Your color choice of taupe was a great decision. One of the most enjoyable parts of Autumn/Winter is wearing overcoats and this awesome one will give you tremendous pleasure season after season, well done!
Manish, that coat (and that colour) is fabulous. Your experience mirrored mine in that having success commissioning suits and sport jackets did not translate to the overcoat. I ended up with lapels that were too narrow, flap instead of patch pockets (patch with flap would have been ideal), and shoulders that were a bit too built up (that oversight I was able to have fixed!) Fortunately there is not much call for an overcoat in Sydney, and it remains in a bag on a rail in the attic having been worn the sum total of a dozen times or so – most of those during a holiday in NYC. If I had my time over…..
Curious to read your assessment of the durability of the cashmere in the next article.
“Were a sartorial apocalypse to ravage all our wardrobes tomorrow…” It’s more commonly called called a moth infestation and I experienced one in my main wardrobe around 10 years ago. Very little survived the voracious appetite of the little bar stewards!
Great choices on the overcoat design and the length is spot on. I’m ill atm so did I miss the price? Btw, I’d choose midnight navy for the traditional Ulster and camel hair for a polo coat with pillar box pockets. I look forward to reading more on your experiencesa with W&S.
Loved this article . Manish’s humour is so welcoming.
Afew questions
1. Would this overcoat work as well under a jumper (ie no suit jkt )? How do you accountants a structured shoulder both to be worn over a suit and without a jkt?
2. Given the ‘warmer’ winters is an overcoat the best option for English winters ? Or would you recommend something else as first choice .
Looking forward to the full review .
Manish should have a style column in the FT. The most elegant writer on men’s style anywhere.
Thank you so much, Rammy! That’s a very generous thing to say 😊
I’m not a fan of the fabric. A standard mid gray would work better with grays and navies. More importantly, the fabric looks too thin and flimsy. I prefer more body and plumped edges.
It looks like you made a number of wise choices, Manish. Congratulations on a lovely coat.
Thank you so much! Hope to see you next month 😊
What a lovely coat! Your thoughts on what should go into a coat are all things I’ve considered for when I one day get a bespoke coat. I have three overcoats: two vintage and one that I purchased new that is soon approaching vintage status. My navy-coloured British warm that’s about 40-50 years old is the ideal overcoat for me. It’s extremely heavy, which is necessary for me in New York City’s cold and windy winters. I appreciate how tough it is, which is why I’d never want a cashmere coat. I like that the style dresses up or down fairly easily, though the leather buttons prevent it from being dressed up too much. I some day want to replace it with a coat that has some stylistic differences that I’d prefer. But the only reason I can justify replacing it is for an improved fit.
Dear Manish! Beautiful coat! Did you ask for the collar to be specifically made in a way that it can be popped in this S-curve? It looks good. Also very pratical when you get annoyed with a collar that is too close to the face, a short beard often scratching against it, leading to pilling etc.
Dear Alexander! Thanks so much!
I definitely wanted to be able to pop it comfortably, but left the details to Sian. I think the way the gorge cuts into the lapel helps with this and I definitely know what you mean about beard scratching!
Lovely coat, Manish ji. And as always, wonderful writing.
I wanted to please ask whether you have seen / felt Fox Authentic flannel – is it 19/20 oz. I am interested in getting a heavy flannel trouser and keep wondering whether it would be wearable and is the fabric really that heavy.
Best
Sandeep
Hi Manish,
Wonderful article, looking forward to the next one, and such a lovely coat too.
Love to get some advice on a purchase I made at the London PopUp Crisis a full year ago. I couldn’t resist a navy blue DB with peak lapels in size 48, even though a size 50 would’ve been better . As I typically don’t get cold, thin layers work fine for me, and the pop up definitely didn’t have any other size I took it with me back overseas. It was also an absolute steal, and was happy to help the cause as well of course, even being from the Netherlands.
The coat has quite the heavy / thick padding in the shoulders, talking about a good few cm’s in thickness. I’m athletically built, so I don’t need any shoulder padding at all. Again, the coat is from Connolly so expertly crafted in beautiful but high quality and sturdy fabric.
I was wondering if those could be taken out without losing too much of the structure of the coat itself? This would free up some space, making the fit a bit looser and better overall.
Much appreciated on your feedback and experience, if you have any on this specific alteration subject.
Best
Hjalmar
Wonderful read, and inspiring one to pursue a bespoke overcoat project 🙂 I think you made good choices, Manish, and the balance of the coat is really great, both in design and fit. Looking forward to the next, more detailed article. But I would have gone for the postbox pockets, practicality be dam*ed! Writing those words feels like it may be something you too would say – I find your occasional slight impulsiveness in favour of romance over function quite relatable.
P.S. I do have a suggestion for the article title: can it perhaps be changed to “Manish: My first bespoke overcoat,” or “Manish’s first bespoke overcoat?” While I enjoyed reading the article, I did expect to read a throwback by Simon to his first bespoke overcoat. I love reading contributions by columnists, but I think I speak for most readers when I say my default is to expect an article is written by Simon.
Thanks Stephan, yes good point thank you
That overcoat is absolutely stunning love the clean lines and classic silhouette. I’ve recently been looking into custom cashmere coat options myself, really appreciate the craftsmanship.
Hi Manish, great article and great coat! I see that you decided not to go with a breast pocket. What were the considerations when making this choice? And did this choice influence your button placement?
Hi John W
Thank you so much and great question!
I’m working on more of a review article for the coat where I will cover this if that’s ok 😊
Sounds good! Looking forward.
This is a brilliant coat, Manish. What is the exact fabric? And what weight is it? Many thanks.