Maximilian Mogg made-to-measure black tie: Review

Monday, June 1st 2026
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I recently had this tuxedo made by the German tailoring brand Maximilian Mogg, while Max was visiting London for the appointments he runs at Richard Gelding on North Audley Street. 

I was interested in having something from Max both because I know readers will be interested, and because I myself admired Max’s distinctive approach to tailoring – its traditional square shoulders, longer jackets, wide trousers. In fact, maybe that’s the same reason; I’m a reader too, and I wanted to know what it would be like. 

So would a Mogg suit make me ‘smexy’? (A portmanteau Max uses, combining ‘smart’ and ‘sexy’)

Overall I think Max (and it was Max each time, in person) did a good job on the fit, which is among the best of the made to measure I’ve had. But I’m a little unsure on the style, which turned out less dramatic than I had expected. 

The jacket is well balanced, with a good sleeve pitch and quite a clean back. There is a touch of wrinkling on the shoulder line where my shoulder rotates forwards, and a little bit of gaping at the back of the neck, but both are minor. Max and I actually went back and forth on whether to tighten the neck at all, and it wouldn’t be a hard thing to tweak in the future. 

The trousers are higher and wider than I would usually have (on the natural waist, hem 23cm) but I really like them with something this formal and dressy. The fit and leg line are great, and both the trousers and jacket are very comfortable. 

As regards fit, bear in mind that the best comparison for a suit like this is not handmade bespoke (which has so much more time and freedom to perfect the fit) but other MTM, and even then not the high-end ones with hand-padded chests and lapels. 

The make on a Mogg suit is actually at a slightly lower level than most of the MTM we’ve covered over the years. It’s fully canvassed but has fewer hand details and a collar attached by machine. And that’s reflected in the price – a suit bought in the EU starts at €1800 (£1560). 

There is a list of my favourite MTM tailors here by the way, which Mogg will now be added to.

In terms of style, the jacket has a padded, roped shoulder, a wide lapel, and a relatively high buttoning point (17½ inches from the shoulder seam). And when I say relative, I mean relative to particular bespoke tailors – you can see in this article that it is the same height as Ferdinando Caraceni for example, but the other tailors are all lower.

The aspect of the Mogg dinner jacket that stands out most is the lapel shape, as it is wide, bellied (curved) and relatively short (determined by the buttoning point). This is always a big factor, but particularly so on a dinner jacket where the lapel is usually in a contrasting material. 

I should make it clear that while Max and I talked about the style of the suit in detail, I always erred towards his house style in order to use this piece to illustrate the kind of look the brand favours. 

While Max is slimmer than me, we are a similar height and this is the style he wears and readers will have seen on him online. I even tried on the jacket he was wearing at the first fitting to get an idea of the cut, as it was so similar. 

The only significant change Max makes on his suits is to give some flare to the trousers. 

So if the style is standard, why does it feel less dramatic – less styled – than I expected? (Above, some images of Max online.)

I asked Max this, and he said he gets it a lot. In contrast to someone like Husbands, the shape is actually not that unusual, especially if you’ve had English tailoring, with its structured shoulders and longer jackets. 

Of course, being less unusual is in many ways a good thing. It means a Mogg suit will appeal to and work for more people, and there are very few MTM brands out there offering structured tailoring. The vast majority is shorter, rounder, softer – more southern Italian. 

Personally, I was looking for something more styled though – an unusual piece to sit alongside my tailoring from Ciardi or Assisi – and it’s why I went for a dinner suit. As a personal thing I might also have gone for a lower buttoning point, now I see the look of those rounded lapels on me. Similarly wide lapels from Edward Sexton or Chittleborough & Morgan seem to have worked on me better when they have dropped lower. And the Caraceni ones were straighter.

On the flip side, I really like the overall proportions of the jacket and trousers, with the broader shoulders being balanced by the length of the jacket, and the wider trouser feeling both relaxed and elegant on me.

The shirt and the bow tie are also Maximilian Mogg, by the way, so there is that element of his style included. 

The shirt is marcella on the body and collar, with a very light voile back. I like the collar shape a lot (slightly more pointed, slightly longer) but I think in retrospect I would have had a plain front, not studs, as with this cut of jacket only one stud shows. 

The bow tie is their house style, which is single ended. One end has the regular bow shape, the other is just a line of material (see image above). This makes it rather easier to tie, although the downside is the bow is thinner, not as full. 

The material for the tux was black barathea from Dugdale (420g/m, 3110). The facing on the lapels and elsewhere is grosgrain silk, but a lighter weight Italian one. I think I probably prefer the English I have had in the past, as it has more texture. That’s not for everyone though. 

The shoes are velvet opera pumps from Baudoin & Lange; the cufflinks are old PS ones. 

The price of the dinner suit was €2750; made to measure suits generally from Maximilan Mogg start at €1800 for those sold in the EU and €2500 for those sold outside. The ones outside include all shipping, duties and taxes. 

There is also a bespoke level of make, which starts at €5500 and €6700 for EU and non-EU. 

Maximilan Mogg has a store in Berlin, and staff in London, Cologne and New York that do appointments in other stories - in London at Richard Gelding for instance. They currently hold regular trunk shows in Zurich, Vienna, Paris, Hamburg and Los Angeles. 

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Winot

Are the buttons covered in the same grosgrain as the lapels Simon?
It looks a decent fit – difficult to say there’s anything wrong but it’s somehow a bit lifeless. Perhaps that’s the MTM v bespoke difference right there.

Jeff

Simon, do you agree with the term “lifeless” to describe this garment?

Sebastian

Good to read that German tailoring is exciting and well crafted.
Max Moog is on my wish list, too.
Greetings from Frankfurt, Germany 🙂

Louis

Hi Simon, thank you for covering Mogg, as I like his style and approach to tailoring, I was waiting for this. Where is the MTM line made?

Louis

The price seems a little high for Romania, as I assume it is made by Formens then. Compared to the P Johnson China and Tuscan production, would you say the make can compete? Style and fit are totally subjective of course.

Lawrence

Dear Simon,

You mention it feels less styled and dramatic than expected, and based on the pictures I feel the same way. But I’m assuming the pictures of you and those of Max where not shot with the exact same goal in mind. Could it be that his poses, camera angles, and framing of the shots, enhance how smexy one would look in his suits?

Cam

Could it also be due to the personality reflected in the wearer, Simon? As a father of 3 girls, I can attest that my Middle can put on the most objectively garish outfits and look adorable. It really just boils down to her personality and confidence in those outfits. For lack of a better way of putting it: those outfits just suit her.
Perhaps this is also applicable in this situation? The MM brand is one that has always seemed to be built around the personality of the owner rather than a specific design ethos. Therefore the overall look reflects him more than you, no?
Still, I think you look fabulous in this outfit.

JB

I think his build, being slimmer than you, as you pointed out, has quite the impact of the overall impression too. The slimmer waist gives the rest of the jacket more flair and drama, to my eyes. Your trousers being less stylised too, I’m sure has an effect. And also the fact we’re looking at black tie vs suits. It all adds up.
Yours still looks great. I personally prefer less belly on lapels in general.

Paul

very, very chic. Wish I had the opportunity to wear something as beautiful myself!

JakeS77

How much would Max be prepared to alter on his mtm style. Would a significantly lower buttoning point be possible? Or would you need to move to his bespoke service?

Alex

Morning, it looks good. One big difference I notice between yours and Max’s (other than the flare) is the amount of break – the extra fabric adds to the loucheness, IMO. Did you consider a bigger break to yours when discussing options?

Eric Michel

What makes a big difference is the length of the trouser, wider trousers look best with a full break as Max wears them. This is not an easy move after many years of no break at all, but a full break is what changes the entire silhouette for me.

Jon

Interesting review, but I have to admit I’m a little surprised by the pricing if the garments are manufactured in Romania. Is the production actually done by Formens or a similar MTM manufacturer?
Nothing inherently wrong with Romanian production of course, but at this price point I’d be interested to understand more clearly where the value is coming from compared to other high-end MTM offerings that use Italian or bespoke-adjacent production. The article talks a lot about style and fit, but less about the actual manufacturing.

Hristo

As a Bulgarian, I really dislike the concept that the labour of people in Romania is supposed to cost less than the labour of people as in this example Italy.
I would understand this if we would have lower standards of labour protection, lower standards of environmental protection ect. as it would be the case if you compare EU to non-EU.
But Romania is in the EU and complies to all EU laws and directives. Why would the labour of a Romanian worker living in Romania cost less than the labour of a Romanian worker living in Italy? The laws are the same, the quality is the same. It is just nonsense to demand lower salaries. You would not say that you would expect cheaper prices from a female tailor compared to a male tailor, wouldn’t you?
We should strive to acchive similar standard of living accross the EU. People from Romania should not be forced to move to Italy to get a decent salary.

Hristo

Of course if the quality in Italy is better, it may cost more.
But the comment of Jon sounds more in the direction that given the same price, the quality of a Romanian product should be better in order to justify the price.
So this is not equal price for an equal quality. For an equal price the Romanians are expected to deliver more purely based on where they live.

Louis

Even though I understand your argument, Hristo, the average cost of living in Romania (and Bulgaria) are less than the average cost of living in Italy and below the EU average. So, there clearly is a reason for the lower cost of labour as well. Plus all the knowledge and historical reasons, why italian (artisanal) made tailoring has a higher price and level of make.

Hristo

Hello Louis,
I totally agree that finer quality and level of make justifies higher prices.
But in my view it makes no sense to pay people less for the same quality because “they live in a cheaper city”.
First of all there are important products that cost the same everywhere – for example smartphones and notebooks. Even some foods like milk, butter and eggs are more expensive in Bulgaria and Romania than in Italy and Germany.
Second and more important – as of 2024 roughly 1,1 Million Romanians live in Italy. Your suit made in Italy is most likely partially made by Romanians working in Italy. In my view it makes much more sense that people could stay in their home counrtry and still receive normal salaries instead of being forced to migrate West to improve their income. Don’t you agree? What is the sense of relocating Romanians to Italy if they could live and work in their home country? Brexit happened because some Brits were unhappy with the number of East Europeans in the UK. This was totally avoidable if people were getting paid fairly.

Sam

Hi Hristo,
I don’t think that anyone here is trying to say there’s a good moral reason why Romanians, on average, earn less than Italians for the same work. However it is an economic fact that the GDP per capita in Romania is half that of Italy. Which in turn means that salaries for the same work (at the same skill level) will, again on average, be lower than in Italy even with the same regulation costs. That’s just stating economic reality, not making any sort of judgement on the skill of Romanian tailors, machinist etc. May the day when come soon when Romanian’s GDP per capita rises to that of Italy.
Best wishes,
Sam

PB

The real question here is whether they are actually paying Italy wages to Romanian workers. If they are then bravo! But I don’t know of any company (menswear or otherwise) that moves production to a lower cost country with the intent to raise local wages 🙁 So it is fair for readers to question why the pricing does not reflect lower production costs (without questioning the quality in any way)

Jasper

There is a small problem with the left lapel or the buttoning point (could be either). In the 4th picture you are standing side on and upright but the left lapel is kicking out slightly.
Lowering the button a tad would fix this instantly.

Jasper

Thanks Simon. I’m not talking about the roll. The lapel itself is pushing outwards because it is too full. it either needs pulling up at the shoulder (expensive), having a couple of bridle stitches added to draw it in, or dropping the button a touch. I have had the latter two fixes done on MTM many times in the past due to my protruding rib cage and they always do the trick.

Alex

Hello Simon. In your 2009 article “three black tie sins”, your first sin was not covering the waist band which you should said should be done via waist coat, cummerbund or double breasted jacket. Does this advice still apply, and if you had gone for a single breasted jacket what is your preferred option stylistically today? Many thanks

Alex

Many thanks Simon, I’m grateful for your advice here!

Flaubertine

Quite literally Mogging.

Lindsay McKee

A very beautiful ensemble indeed and health to wear and enjoy.
If I may allude, and something that I like is,IMO, quite a longer jacket and that’s something that,even if I went bespoke, I would insist on from a tailor, being quite broad at 50” chest and 6 feet in height.
On a side note:- When I bought my blue shirt in T&A, I had a look at the bow ties of which I mentioned a bat wing style which the guy said was not for me because of my facial features and stature but insisted on a more standard one. I’m sure you’ll agree that he was right!

Tom

Hi Simon.

Thanks a lot for the article. I’m wondering if you would ever consider getting something made at husbands? I see you referenced the brand but as you linked to their site I assume you haven’t had anything made there.
As someone who loves how their stuff looks on the models, but has a different build – more like yourself but a broader shoulder, I’d be curious to see how their block turns out on you.

Thanks again
Tom

howie

hey simon: thoughts on wearing a watch with a tuxedo? is it appropriate? if so, which of yours would (did?) you choose? many thanks.

Issac

Simon why don’t you ever wear braces anymore? I mean no braces with black tie, explain that…? Also the shirt and bow tie look nice. Thank you for the tip about bow ties, do you have any bow tie guides on the website, and would you consider a single ended bow tie easier to tie in general then a double ended one? I’m considering buying one now

sean

Hi Simon
On styling–are the buttons covered in barathea, and are the jettings on the hip pockets barathea as well? thanks

Alan

I agree with you that the suit looks elegant but not overly dramatic. Maybe that’s partly because it’s a black dinner jacket with all the traditional details. A lounge suit in a bolder fabric in the same cut would probably look more dramatic.

However, while I like Mogg’s style, I’m afraid the word “smexy” needs to be submitted to Bill Nighy’s Banned Words List and never uttered again on Permanent Style.

J

I’m sorry to say this black tie is hard to like:
-Jacket is basically small (too tight on chest) and too short.
-Sleeves are too tight.
-Shoulders are not broad enough.
-Trouser fit is also subpar, it seems rise should be higher
It’s a total “no” for me.

Tim

Nice trousers.

The buttons are indeed too high, it throws the balance off. There’s a picture of you facing camera and you look like you’re wearing an overcoat.

A woman who loves to read about men's style

This suit looks sexy on you, Simon. The strong shoulder line and the fluidity of jacket and trousers give you a louche air. I love this combination on men.

In contrast to many of your commenters, I find the look quite dramatic.

I’m glad you got the shirt and tie from the same maker. The elements work well together. Thanks for the tip that a single-ended bow tie is easier to don. I learn new stuff from you all the time.

Derek

I think the price for this tuxedo is outrageously high for what’s being offered. An entirely machine-made-in-Romania suit for $3,000 just doesn’t pass the smell test. Especially when it’s one of the least flattering custom pieces I’ve seen made for you. It sounds like you’re generally satisfied with the fit, but the jacket appears quite blocky for a DB dinner jackets, and the very basic side tab trousers need a lot of work.

I know you’ve said only the “very high-end” MTM makers are hand-padding chest pieces and lapels, but I can tell you firsthand that many of the mid-tier southeast Asian tailors are hand-padding lapels at the very least, and the better houses hand-padding chest pieces, attaching collars, hand-sewn buttonholes etc. for around 1/3 of the price here or less. And I strongly suspect most reputable MTM shops in Japan, Korea, and Hong Kong are doing the same.

Derek

I’m certainly not suggesting handwork is some kind of guarantee of overall quality, but I’d consider a certain amount of it a necessary, not sufficient element of a custom suit; certainly one at this price point. And of course there are some lesser makers doing handwork in Hong Kong, or Southeast Asia, just as there are in Europe and the U.S. I have been able to find several very good ones, and invite you to visit some of them. Several of them even do remote bespoke, including Toast Bespoke in Bangkok, who I think you’d find provides a far superior handmade product for about half the price of what you’ve received here.
And as for MTM generally in east Asia, I’ll have to do more research, but even AskOkey’s MTM product, made in Japan, offers this kind of handwork for around 60% of the price. So it would surprise me if quite a few more JDM-focused tailors aren’t doing the same, at good quality, for less.

Derek

Simon, this is the last I’ll say on the matter because I know better than to continue to engage someone on his own platform who’s clearly made his mind up without firsthand experience.

But I’m not at all surprised to hear that the chatter you chose to internalize on your trip to Bangkok was unenthusiastic. This tends to come from those who are either (a) uninformed about the actual quality houses around town, and have experienced only the tourist trap, google-review recommendations or hopelessly-out-of-date recommendations like Narin, etc; or (b) those with a vested financial interest in downplaying the actual quality bespoke houses like Toast, Alongkorn, The Manners, etc, who are doing high-quality, fully-canvassed, handmade Florentine-style tailoring. Included in (b) are wonderful boutiques like Decorum, who hosted you, and benefits from hosting trunk shows from foreign houses vs recommending local ateliers, and obviously had plans on developing their own in-house MTM line, which would be in competition with the local similarly-priced bespoke. And FWIW, Decorum’s MTM offering, now in effect, uses blocks developed with Kim Min Soo from Assisi, and offers hand padding, at a price point starting around $1,000, and using Fox Brothers cloth at around $1,700.

Rand

Simon,
May be worth a full article at some point, but would love to hear your thoughts on your snow fox grooming and whether you have considered keeping your hair color natural, or going more white or dark (or shades therein) with the help of a barber.
Cheers,
Rand

Toby

Where to start.
Are the buttons and pocket jets really covered in barathea as you state, or grossgrain as they should be?
The hems look too short as they appear not connected to your shoes in any way.

As as been commented already, the left lapel is adrift. It isn’t roll or padding related as the right lapel looks perfect. The bowing shown in the side on photo suggests it to be a flaw in the make. It needs to be clipped in with bridle stitching to resolve the problem.

Otherwise, to be honest, for the price it looks pretty fair.

Viktor

Hi Simon, how much more extended were the shoulders compared to your suits from Sexton and C&M?

Paul Christian

Can’t get over the how beautiful it is. The lapels project a colossal amount of power I think, full on. Similarly with the square fan at the back. I have to admire it!

David

To clarify a few things:

1) Would you go plain front, no studs, on all future Black Tie, or just on this one because of the style? Would you go hidden placket?
2) Other than the lapel facings, is this your favorite material for black tie, or is there another cloth you prefer?
thanks!

Dario

My first impression upon looking at the front picture is that it would really benefit from more extended shoulders. And after taking a second and a third look, I still stand by that.

Pops

Vents on a double breasted dinner suit are a no-no for me. Overall, I like the simplicity of the suit, although it is difficult to photograph well being black.

Roger

Very smart, love the shoes.

LCE

Hi Simon,

As we have reopened the fun world of black tie i wanted to get your take before committing the ultimate sin of dinner jacketing. I am having the attached jacket made (mine will be one button with the fabric covered buttons) but was considering going with the notch lapel instead of the peak/ shawl collar. My idea is to wear this dinner jacketing in summer wedding and then have a more traditional tux for the more formal occasions. I was planning to pair it with a black cummerbund and black labowtique bow tie and a chambray tuxedo shirt. But before having this made I wanted to get your take on whether this was a fun but elegant way to play summer black tie or if I had missed the mark completely.

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LCE

Simon,

As always a big thank you for your views. Correct on the no patch pockets will be going with the more traditional pockets sans flaps.
Last question for you, any chance I look like a waiter at one of these events and perhaps more importantly should I feel strange wearing white to a wedding that isn’t mine!

AA

Hi Simon – I’m thinking about going MTM/bespoke for a SB dinner jacket but I think black tie looks better when it’s sharper/has a bit more structure (as I think you’ve mentioned before). 

However, as you note, outside of Max Mogg (the cut of which I’m not a fan, either in the DB above, or the SBs I’ve seen on Instagram) or Savile Row, there seem to be a dearth of options.

Are there any more structured options that you would recommend? Husbands might appeal, but I’ve never seen it made up in MTM, so seems a risk.

I wonder whether Luca Museo, when made up like your navy suit, would work well? It seems to have a sharp shoulder line that would fit the bill ( I note that Manish’s suit seems less sharp but my shoulders are closer to yours so presumably they would take the same approach as they did with you).

AA

Interesting and that’s really helpful thanks. If I was simply looking. form something with more structure than the the rounded Neapolitan/ neapolitan-inspired suits that dominate the market (but with more style than one of the city tailors etc) would that change your view? No worries if not, I’ll simply have to check out RTW then!

Also, FWIW, I might be in the minority, but I’m a big fan of your Museo suit – I wasn’t initially convinced by some of the static pictures, but seeing it in movement in your walkie talkie on Instagram really brought it to life. Thanks again.