A reader recently asked why there is a correlation between shorter, tighter styles of clothing and lower prices. Why are all the styles we like from more expensive brands? It makes it very hard for someone on a lower income to get into more classic dressing.
There are a few related reasons, I think, but the main one is that that shorter style still dominates the mainstream, and if you want to offer a cheaper product you often need volume. So you end up catering to that mainstream.
One brand that might be an exception is Buck Mason, the American brand that readers may have seen pop up recently as they’ve begun to work with a few people we know - Bryceland’s, Fox Brothers, J Mueser, as well as appearing in magazines like L’Etiquette.
They’re a large brand by the standards of PS, with over 30 stores around the US, but also have some good-value, classically styled menswear. I tried a couple of pieces last year including the Rambler suede trucker jacket (below), which I covered in our Spring/Summer Highlights.
But they have a big range, so when I was in New York I made the time to visit their Flatiron shop (above) and try everything I could.
One thing that makes Buck Mason easy to wear is the color palette. It is deliberately narrow, with almost everything in wearable shades of brown and beige, navy and white. This could seem boring, but it makes it versatile and it leans it more towards the classic.
The size of the range also means they often have multiple fits. So in chinos, for example, there is a slim fit (Maverick) that is a nice take on a mainstream chino, with a mid rather than low rise (11¼ inch on a 32) and a fairly narrow opening. But there’s also a modern take on the traditional officer’s chino - higher rise and wider opening, with all the right details: grown-on waistband, corozo buttons, coin pocket (below).
Where the Japanese brands we cover do a purist version of that American military chino, Buck Mason update it and make it more wearable. And with the Maverick too - it’s not a model I’d wear, but it’s more elegant than slim chinos you find from other American brands around the same price level.
I’ve been trying that version of the officer’s chino - the Service Twill Full Saddle Office Pant, to give it its full name - and have been impressed. It’s washed really well and worn really well.
If money were no object, I’d still rather have my officer’s chino from Rubato, as the make is a touch better and I prefer that Japanese cotton. But I wouldn’t pitch Buck Mason as a competitor to that - rather, it’s something I’d suggest to a reader for whom Rubato (or Bryceland’s, or those Japanese repro brands) are out of their price range, and they’re looking to something like Uniqlo instead.
If you drop all the way down to Uniqlo, you sacrifice a lot in terms of material (as we’ve covered previously on knitwear). I did try their version of the US military chino once, and while it is extremely good value for the price (£35), it’s very clear what you lose. The officer’s chino from Buck Mason sits between at $158 - a price most people can afford, particularly for something that’s a wardrobe staple (as a lot of Buck Mason products can be).
I also think the styling of the Buck Mason range puts it above other mainstream American brands like J Crew, Sid Mashburn or Todd Snyder, while it’s better value than Polo options I’ve tried.
Other things I liked included the swim shorts, which are simply styled and have a good range of colours (I’ve written before about how there should be more swim shorts like this). And the camp shirts - a slightly slimmer fit than others and a nice range of colours and materials.
Neither are extraordinary products - or perhaps, you could say, that special - but they really nail wearable fit and versatile design, at a good quality for the price. This seems to be the kind of thing Buck Mason do well.
Not everything I tried was quite as good. I tried the Tough Knit T-shirt, for example, because I was interested to try something made in the US (Buck Mason own a factory in Pennsylvania, pictured above, only making T-shirts currently). While the style and fit were just as good, the tee did lose shape after a couple of washes; I know the heavier ‘Field Spec’ tee is their most popular one, so maybe I should have tried that.
I also don’t like the design on every product. The collars on the oxford shirts are a little small and apologetic, for example, without much roll. Although the colour selection is still good and some use a nice lightweight tencel/cotton mix (below).
As ever, these kinds of things mean it’s worth going into a store if you can, and for US readers the stores are more accessible than most brands we cover.
Other products I’ve roadtested also continue to do well. The Rambler suede jacket, for example, falls into that category; leather is not an easy thing to do at an affordable price, and $698 is very good for this quality, particularly if you compare it to someone like RRL.
Lucas, who went to one of the LA stores when he was there, has tried a couple of things, including the jeans and the Yukon jacket from their Eddie Bauer collaboration. He wore the latter during this past winter and his reaction was rather like mine to the suede jacket - very good for the price.
I also like the fact that on some of those Bauer products they show images of the garment worn in, rather than new. That shows some pride in the materials and how they wear.
Buck Mason as a company are in a period of transition. They’ve been around for more than a decade, but are just starting to experiment with higher-end products and materials. When I was in the Flatiron store they had just introduced chambray shirts in Kaihara material, and tailoring in Fox Brothers cloth.
In fact you can see this range clearly in the tailoring: they do a well-styled but basic cotton jacket for $398, the same style in Fox Air material for $598, and now a Neapolitan-made model with J Mueser with hand finishing for $1498.
The good news is that, at least according to them, the plan is not to abandon the mid-market staples that are a real strength. They’re a great option for readers that want something a level below brands we normally cover, but still well done.
I’m sure I’ll try more things in the future, and continue to cover how those wash, wear and generally live. I’m looking forward to seeing the collaboration with Bryceland’s (new materials in a few existing styles) and a collaboration with J Press launched this week.
It is very good that you write about brands in this price segment. I personnally buy must of my clothes from companies like Saman Amel, Private White, Rubato and Blackhorse Lane. But sometimes even people with my means wants to find better bargains. Especially as some of our favourite brands are getting more expensive (I used to buy Attolini but they are now out of reach when not on sale). I ve recently tried to Norwegian brand Cavour that is selling Neapolitan-style tailoering made in Asia with very competitite pricing for the quality.
Thanks Carl, and yes it’s a good one to talk about – to explain what you are and are not missing out on, as I attempt to do a little here
Thanks for covering this Simon. In my opinion a lower price point is also good for different activities – eg going to the soft play centre when you know you’ll want to chuck it the wash, but still want to look ok. Real McCoys etc seem too good for this.
I know what you mean Alex, but I’d disagree in some ways. That kind of workwear is made to be washed and worn and washed and only get better. That doesn’t account for stains etc though obviously
While the insightful articles remain a standout of PS, it’s the community that I appreciate the most. Thank you for referencing Saman Amel! I was not familiar with the brand prior to your comment.
-Kinte
I really, really love it when PS introduces me to a brand I think I will love. Regardless of the price point we shop at I feel BM may have a place in a lot a readers’ wardrobes. The only annoying thing is that despite being a fairly regular visitor to NYC I only find out about them now! Oh well will have to wait a couple of months before I can see it in person.
Also, really interesting list of collaborators, it’s as if they read PS. I feel like an interview with the people behind the brand may be an interesting read. I am always fascinated by people who decide to do something that has such a wide existing offering (e.g. chinos, t-shirts etc) how do they pitch to investors? Why do they believe people will but from them and not a more established competitor?
Thanks Nick, yes good point. We’ve chatted to them a bit about the company but a full interview would be interesting
Having read your article I’ve just had a Quick Look at their website and it’s an Interesting price point .
I’d shop there if I could mainly because having it recommended by you I can shortcut having to research the quality myself.
Trunk Clothiers was this kind of price point when I first shipped their but Incotex trousers, Boglioli suits etc sold there are way beyond my means .
Let’s have more of this please, Simon.
Thanks Robin. And to be clear, I wouldn’t say the quality is necessarily the same as those Trunk things – everything has become more expensive, but it’s certainly a good way to trade down if you can’t afford those any more
This brand looks interesting and i’ll certainly check it out next time I’m in the US. But for those on a budget wanting classic clothing, surely vintage and pre-owned is the way forward? Brooks Brothers Oxford shirts are easily found for under 100 and a nice pair of classic fit RL chinos is even cheaper leaving plenty of money for alterations. Speaking personally, if I buy new, I want exactly the right product and am willing to save for it if not immediately in my price range. If not, its vintage/second hand everyday.
Thanks Fred. Agree, it’s a great option. Obviously issues sometimes with time and sizes and finding the thing you want
to quote the marvin gaye phrase, things aren’t what they used to be. Even the fact stands that RL has had been outsourcing since the 80s, the early batches of garments made in hongkong(sometimes actually guangdong, china)produced still had much better quality than those being made today. Vintage RL or Brooks Brothers are staples for sure, but the garden variety lines of theirs nowadays… the more you try, the less belief you will have left in their brandings.
Thanks. I know what you mean, but I do still buy things in there, usually in the sale. The styling and variety can be very good if you can peruse a store and can see everything easily. And the value is fine if it’s in the sale.
The thing I find most frustrating is just that the quality can vary quite a bit, so you need to see it in person and will make a wrong choice now and again
“surely vintage and pre-owned is the way forward”
Indeed! This has been my general course of action over the years.
Search for highest quality surprises in the vintage and thrift stores, on ebay, etc., and then work those finds into your wardrobe. It will expand your sartorial repertoire in ways you wouldn’t have imagined on your own, had you not done this bit of scouting.
I’ve had an eye on this brand for a few months now. I hope they open a store in Britain sometime.
Agreed and hopefully avoid the mistake JCrew made of jacking their UK prices up by 40% to try and position themselves as a luxury brand!
And one in the Eurozone!
“The officer’s chino from Buck Mason sits between at $158 – a price most people can afford…”. That price is more comparable to middle class brands like Gant rather than Uniqlo. I not convinced that most people can afford over £100 for a pair of chinos. IMO, Buck Mason’s prices are, in general, closer to Polo Ralph Lauren.
It’s worth noting that Uniqlo in the UK has dropped its regular fit chinos and jeans this year – relaxed/wide, slim and skinny fit only. There are lots of ankle length trousers this year. Like so many High Street brands, Uniqlo seems to be targeting the youth market. Fat Face, White Stuff and even M&S have a range of affordable alternatives for those on a tight budget.
Thanks Kent. I think you’ll get rather better styling (or at least more PS styling) here than with those brands.
I would guess most PS readers would be able to afford £100 chinos, particularly if it’s a classic colour and they don’t need more than one.
Simon, I was just comparing Uniqlo to its High Street competitors where most people shop. Personally, I buy Uniqlo t-shirts to wear on beach holidays as sun creams and oils ruin delicate fabrics. The rest of the brand’s range is an odd fit, especially the massive collars on the shirts, and a lot of stuff has nylon or polyester.
As for “better or PS styling”, I have been a loyal and regular customer of brands like Turnbull & Asser, Drake’s, John Smedley and Sunspel for many years, long before you started this website. I have just bought a few more Smedley polos as they are a bargain with 60% off in the sale.
Going by the results of your recent survey, your readers are very fortunate to have six figure salaries. They are several times more than the British average, certainly more than my family relatives who work in local government, schools and the NHS. Public service is more imprtant to them than spending hundreds of pounds on a shirt or jumper.
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Buck Mason rocks. Regular shopper here — a lot of my casual wear has been converted to BM over the past 12 months. Their t-shirts are fantastic and their shorts are very good. The chinos you mention are part of my rotation.
I’d suggest the Pima white tshirt as well. Post “the bear”, everyone is scrambling after $75+ white tshirts but I’d point folks towards this one, which clocks in at $45.
Hi Simon, I’m in agreement with others, thank you for highlighting this off radar (for me) brand. While I was aware of them, I had lumped them in w J Crew, etc. and had not considered further. I’ll give them a harder look. A few additional thoughts/questions if I may:
– I’m surprised to see Sid Mashburn categorized as “other mainstream American brands” based on relative size (e.g. 6-7 stores vs 30+). Curious as to your logic here.
– I’m impressed with BM’s ability to forge partnerships “up” the quality and maker spectrum. Do you think those makers expose themselves to risks such as brand dilution, perceived or real? J Mueser in particular surprises me.
– To readers struggling to resolve the investment thresholds for higher quality pieces (chinos being a great example), I can speak from a good bit experience here in stating I would have been much better off in the long term if I had exercised more discipline and bought “fewer better better things” to appropriate Standard & Strange’s moniker. You’re in the best place I can think of for figuring out what those “better things” are for you!
Hey Paul,
– Yes, I guess I mean any brand with more than say three stores. Maybe that makes more of a difference in the US than in the UK.
– I guess there is a risk there, yes, but it’s probably outweighed by finding a new audience. At least, the danger is probably not high enough to mean it’s not worth trying once and seeing the results.
– Cheers Paul, always useful to relate to others
Are there any recommendations on RTW OCBD shirts that offer classic details we like (i’m thinking especially an nice collar long enough to have a nice roll) not breaking the bank (sub 100€) ? Above that price point i’d rather go MTM but it’s not always something you want to wear realxed on the week-ends.
I don’t know any at that price myself, sorry
Kamakura’s Vintage Ivy OCBDs, with all the desired details, are priced at $120, just above your target price.
Just go to Luxire. They will make you exactly what you want.
Avoid any type of fusing if you want to get a proper collar roll though.
They might have crept slightly over the 100 mark, but Kamakura are in that ballpark
I would definitely recommend Poszetka. Good quality, very nice roll collar and around 100€.
Another vote for Kamakura, but depending on where you are based, and whether you have a local stockist, be aware of import duties etc.
Thanks all for the recommendations.
Any opinions on Cavour shirts (regurlar or premium) as some are on sale and look great
Americans love tonal beige garments…it’s a little boring no?
I wouldn’t say so, a white shirt, beige trousers and a black or brown shoe is great. But more importantly, it depends what else you wear it with – pieces like this can be a great foundation for other more unusual things
Not to bore you, Paul, but your affected, oh so European “no?” at the end of your remark has me rolling on the floor in laughter… while, of course, decked out in tonal beige garments.
All the best.
The only pity simon is they do not ship to all countries. I’m in Singapore and they don’t ship here which is a shame
As a customer who has spent hundreds on BM products over the course of a couple of years I think I can say that, generally, their tee shirts are basically a joke. I’ve tried every fit in both the Standard and Tall (I’m 6’3”, 220lb) and while the fabric on most is really exceptional when in-store, they just don’t hold up well over the long term.
The Costa Boxy fit in hemp was a joy in the hot Atlanta summer but shrunk so much after the 2nd wash that it was basically a midriff on me. I looked like I should be a character in Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure. The stitching on the Curved Hem tee’s bottom hem came apart within a couple of washes. The Slub Classic was very lightweight material (subjective) and also shrunk excessively to the point of being a smaller size.
The only tee that was relatively ok over time is the Pima Classic tee. Generally it is far too slim for the sizing but the material has held up the best.
I think many of the issues with the tees comes down to almost all being made of very thin, lightweight material. I don’t suspect this material selection has much to do with economies of scale because they’re using fibers such as hemp and Pima cotton. More elevated and generally more costly than your standard J. Crew or Banana Republic-made tees. I think, as Simon alluded to in his article, these are more likely down to the direction that the fashion winds are blowing. When you’re growing a brand your goal is to appeal to the widest audience possible in an effort to gain market share. I think that’s mainly what is happening with BM. Only recently has a heavyweight tee entered the mainstream. I know that is a product that’s been offered by repro brands like the Real McCoys for years, but only recently have menswear fashionistas taken to that particular product.
As for the trousers, it’s like they’re made by a different company (made in a different factory, I know). The Full Saddle Officer’s Chino has basically been beaten to death and are still going, despite the lightweight fabric. That fabric has also aged and broken in really nicely. The Georgia summers demand a lighter weight material and these fit the bill nicely. I also have a fatigue pant in heavy linen that is a real joy to wear. They kind of feel like pajamas with the rear waistband being made in an elasticated style with a drawstring. Their denim is kind of mainstream and a bit of a wash (pun intended) with the weight and washes offered being what you can find literally everywhere. One thing to note regarding sizing is that their trousers consistently run a size too large. I normally wear a 36 waistband but always buy a 34 at BM with room to be comfortable.
I haven’t owned and worn their outerwear but my experiences with these items from friends has been largely positive. Simon noted all that has been relayed to me from those peers.
Overall, the shirts can be chucked in the bin and forgotten without remorse but BM is a great option for knock-around trousers for those in need of something less expensive than RL/RRL or for those with Littles with sticky fingers such as myself.
Hi Simon,
It’s good to see you highlighting brands at this price point. I would however say it’s as much about inclination to afford than necessarily being able to afford, and personal priorities. Whilst your point is well made on for example The Real McCoys (I’m a fan and wear this brand) I do tend to look after them a bit more than say a £100 chino which I will wear to destruction and not be bothered too much by a stain or two.
I am surprised by the Buck Mason button down collar and similar to other brands cannot understand why they don’t have a soft roll longer collar. There must be a market for a less expensive version.
Another reader mentioned vintage, I have some old Gap OCBD (generous cut and long soft collar) and chinos which are nearly vintage in that I purchased them new about 20 years ago. Washed to super soft and still going strong. Not sure what happened to their quality since then.
Nice to see something in this range and anything similar in UK would be welcome.
I do absolutely love Buck Mason, I’ve visited their Flatiron store on multiple occasions strolling around town, and the smell of smoldering palo santo now almost feels like home. At no fault of their own, as good as their products are I’m very limited on what I myself can purchase, simply due to sizing. I already size up to a XXL in their Pima cotton t shirts and chambray shirts (which have worn and washed really well for me), but everything else seems to be a wash for me. Their pants are fantastic but even their full saddle fit struggles to make it up my thighs. Their rambler suede jacket however is on a fantastic pattern and looks great on me! So, caution to readers who might be in the minority of being about 1.93m tall and 120kg or more, your selection might be limited.
The price point of the chinos made me think of my latest buzz rickson purchase. Their chinos are also around the same price if you buy through Hinoya (I paid 159€ including import tax and shipping). They offer a good DDP service.
Compared side by side with my other chinos I don’t see any difference in quality to Real McCoys. My rubato officer chinos display a finer make, but this is of course part of the idea and very intentional. I guess concerning the price difference, for example between RMC and BR it has to be about volume. Buzz Rickson‘s apparently are quite large in Japan, so they can produce good quality at quite a low price (see also Manish‘s remarks on their chambray shirt). Anything wrong with my thoughts, Simon?
I’m not sure it’s about volume, but then I don’t know Buzz R as well as McCoys from a business point of view.
The Buzz R chinos are certainly good value at that price
Anyone else keep getting Buzz Mason and Buck Rickson confused? 🙂
Agree, Alexander, Buzz Rickson’s is a much better value in terms of style and quality than Buck Mason if one does buy via Hinoya. Rickson’s outside Japan is often at a much higher price point. Agree quality of the fabrication is the same as McCoys though McCoys seems to use thicker, more exotic fabrics in general. I own a number of items from all three brands.
Would a black suede braided belt be as versatile as regular braided calf or less so when paired with separates and chinos? It would be softer and not as contrasty as calf, good for earthy tones but wouldn’t work as well with denims for example? Do you own one or have considered it Simon?
I have had one, yes. I’d go for calf myself, it would be more versatile and more subtle, particularly as it wears
Simon, I think you hit the nail on the head re: staples. The field spec tee is well made and has held after multiple washes. Agree on the oxfords not having the proper roll; it appears the J Press collab may use a different collar. I prefer Wythe and Gitman Vintage oxfords (Gitman is more expensive but made in USA). Buck Mason also stands behind its products and has a 365 day return policy. I am still unclear of what to make of the tailoring.
I tried the Buck Mason’s graduate blazer on recently at thier Charleston store and it is a great interpretation of an ivy cut.
This is a nice write-up, and I agree with the overall take. For me, it’s also nice to have a store in my city, which means a return or exchange is easy when there’s an inevitable sizing mishap. That tends to be harder with smaller, more niche brands. And BM offers no-cost hemming in their stores, which adds a bit to the value proposition if you can take advantage of it.
One other point I’d make is that, although the range of options may feel wide in comparison to the higher-end options you usually cover, it’s actually fairly restrained in comparison to some of the more direct competition. I see 504 total SKUs on Buck Mason’s website today, whereas Todd Snyder is showing at least 1,460 (across clothing, footwear, and the sale section) and J. Crew’s men’s section has more than 2,000.
I think that’s consistent with your comments about BM’s sense of coherent taste and style, and it also makes the online shopping experience feel less overwhelming. You can generally understand the range of options — e.g., here’s the slimmer chino and this is the more relaxed cut; this is the heaviest tee, here’s a medium weight, and this is the lightest one, etc. Some brands have so many different offerings that it’s almost impossible to understand the distinctions.
Thanks, yes nice points
BM have done a rather good job of avoiding product creep, and your astute assessment of the SKUs supports that. Not only do they retain the focus on staples in a limited color palette, but they really stay on brand, as evidenced by the interior photos of the Flatiron store in NYC, which I mistook for the Newport Beach store in CA.
I would also agree with Cameron. I originally found BM looking for a solid, well-fitting, (preferably) American-made tee. I was a bit disappointed with those offerings, but the chinos have held up well.
I´m very pleased to read this review. It´s a brand that quite recently caught my attention. But so far I`m hesitent to give it a shot and order online from Germany. Always a pleasure to read your blog. It provided me with so much inspiration. Anyway over the past two years I reduced expenses and narrowed down my brand portfolio to basically three brands. Swedish brand Asket – not Arket – covers all my needs for pretty high quality basics, COS provides me with more fashionable trousers and french Veja with sneakers… Not exactly the brands you are engaged with, I know…
No, but it’s still interesting to hear and I’m sure useful to others, so thank you
Asket is an interesting one because it is very transparent disclosing in which factory the garment and the clothes, yarn etc were made, the average wage of the factory, the size, how much cost was necessary to make the garment, etc. Their t-shirts are very good for everyday use, like going to the beach, etc, where Simon‘s t-shirts are too dear to me.
I can also recommend Artknit, which has a similar approach but different articles (knitwear).
I’m really impressed with the transformation of this brand over the past 12 months or so. A year ago I wouldn’t have given them a second glance, but it feels like whoever is at the creative helm is really plugged into the best of what’s currently happening in menswear and is successfully employing that knowledge to fill a very real void in the current mid-tier market.
Some of the detailing of the core collection isn’t quite to my tastes, but the collaborations are very strong, especially the J. Mueser tailoring. And I agree with others that for things like chinos and knitted polos it’s nice to have a more economical alternative to Rubato et al. Even if it is a different tier of quality, it feels like some of these pieces could happily coexist in an outfit alongside higher-end brands and not feel out of place. And their stores look great.
One of their most versatile items is the felted chore jackets. Many colors. Layer over, under. Anyway you want. Nice cut that will allow you to accessorize to the nines. I have 5. Highly recommend.Shopped first online then two stores opened in Chicago. Such a pleasant environment. Pleasant people. If you have one nearby, go. If not, take a chance. Order something. You won’t be dissatisfied with the quality.
Their CHORE COAT is brilliant. Sadly it’s seldom that in Palm Springs I need outerwear.
Gorgeous shops, but truly an abject collar on that oxford…!
A great article and I certainly look forward to more like this.
It’s the US on this occasion which is fine but I’d respectfully suggest that a balance in location be maintained for future articles like this excellent one eg. the UK, Europe and Asia.
Just a flag for the typo in the second sentence (“vry”)
Thanks
Why do you say the Maverick is not a model you’d wear? It doesn’t seem overly slim, going off the measurements.
It’s not super slim, you’re right, but still a little slimmer than I’d wear today
Simon,
Thank you for covering such brands, this is really helpful. Whilst I used to be able to more readily afford some of the brands featured on permanent style, 2 youngish kids have put pay to that!! Visiting the States regularly I have always used JCrew but have progressively found their style to be uninspiring and their quality has gone down a little, good to know I can try Buck Mason in Flatiron as a more premium, but affordable option on my next trip.
Thanks
Colin
Cheers Colin, nice to hear
Simon,
Many thanks for the review. I visited BM on a recent trip to LA thanks to your mention. Alas, they did not have copies of your recent book despite being listed as a stockist. However, I did purchase a Pima Classic Tee, that I find quite soft, just about the right fit for me (neither tight nor loose). It is holding up well, albeit after only 3 washings. Not quite the old-school sturdiness and tensile strength of your Lady White recommendation, but softer and quite good value for money.
BTW, I also purchased a Chester Mox keychain, also recommended in your recent guide to LA. The stitching and leather are as good as what I have seen at Hermes (where she evidently worked previously).
Wonderful, nice to hear Steven
that suede trucker would be perfect with contrast collar
I know what you mean – I think there’s a McCoy’s one like that that’s nice. But I think on balance I prefer it without. Maybe it’s a little subtler
yup originally Levi type 3 and Barbanera Ennio as well, it’s definitely more subtle without but somehow I just love that black leather contrast collar
Absolutely, I can see that appeal
Hi Simon,
I recently tried on the service twill full saddle office pant at a buck mason store and was very impressed with the pants as far as fit and quality for the price point. I really hope they offer a lighter khaki and stone/offwhite similar to rubato since I already have a dark khaki pant that’s similar in color to these. If they offered lighter colors, I’d buy them both that’s how much I liked them at the store
I know you mentioned you own a pair and they wash well. Have you been washing cold and hang drying? Have you noticed any shrinkage after?
I wash warm and hang dry, and no there hasn’t been much shrinkage
Oh wow even when washing warm there’s no shrinkage? Good to know, thanks Simon.
There was some, but mostly came out with wear
Simon when you tried on the jacket, how did you find the sizing?
I’ve seen some I like on the website and judging from their measurements I will be between an M/L.
Also are classic motorbike jackets (such as this https://www.buckmason.com/products/black-leather-bruiser-moto-jacket?variant=39400162263123) always cut a little longer than other styles of leather jackets? It’s a style I like yet always most models seem to sit lower/longer on my body than I would like.
Cheers
The suede jacket I had I found quite trim in fit. I actually ended up going for a medium rather than a large.
A Perfecto-style jacket like this is often a little shorter actually, so you can sit on a motorbike and it not hit the seat etc. But modern versions vary a fair bit