A contrasting view: Mixing dark trousers with light tops
By Manish Puri.
When I started to wear more tailored clothing - and it won’t surprise you to learn that coincided with when I began to read PS regularly - it seemed to me that the epitome of elegance was the ability to mix darker jackets with lighter coloured trousers.
The digital manscape was awash with photos of handsome Italians, strapping Swedes and impossibly chic Japanese men sporting creamy flannels, pale grey Fresco and taupe twills on their lower half.
And, even as recently as last year, Derek Guy (in a post distilling style lessons from Seinfeld’s George Costanza) advocated for “dark top; light bottoms”.
I tried, Derek. I really did.

Whenever an opportunity to wear non-corporate tailored clothing presented itself, I’d dutifully trial various combinations and permutations, before predictably falling back on what felt most comfortable to me: dark shoes, dark trousers and a light colour up top.
It seemed like a fairly unremarkable (and even dull) preference. It was only when Gianluca Migliarotti (above, right) who is stellar at pairing dark sober colours on top with lighter, more expressive trousers, complimented me on the way I mixed lighter jackets with dark trousers, that I realised I might have something verging on a style-signature. (Ok, it’s no watch over a shirt cuff, but even Agnelli had to start somewhere!)
But why did I gravitate towards darker trousers in the first place? I’ll try and answer that question in this article.
Now, in doing so, there’s bound to be an element of post-purchase rationalisation at play: isn’t the quest for personal style often about stumbling on what feels right and telling a pretty story about it later?
But I believe the preference was ingrained by my early forays into classical menswear, where I found my best purchases were practical, versatile and, to a certain degree, inconspicuous.
Charcoal trousers (in particular) ticked all three boxes, and that’s why they’re referenced so much in this article. But similar reasoning holds for dark green, brown and blue trousers.
Of course, with time and some experimentation, I’ve come to embrace a paler bottom [note to self: must rephrase that before publishing]. But in spite of my shift, it seems to me that in the interim the prevailing winds of taste have started to blow gently in my direction.
Don’t believe me? Take a look at the PS Lookbook - a great resource, not just for outfit inspiration, but for seeing how even permanent style can evolve. There's been a marked change in colour gradient over the years, with less contrast between top and bottom as well as more dark bottoms mixed with light tops.
For example, in 2017, Simon paired his chocolate suede bomber with stone chinos and white trainers, but in 2023 they’re replaced by charcoal flannels and black tassel loafers.
Or take two lovely casual outfits worn at the summer edition of Pitti: in 2019 Simon fixes the dark colours up top, while in 2023 it’s inverted.
The more generous-natured among you might say, “Bravo, Manish! You’re clearly a man ahead of his time!”
Alas, a more precise summation of my “trendsetting” is offered by Junior Soprano in one of my all-time favourite lines from the show: “Some people are so far behind in a race that they actually believe they’re leading”.
Anyway, I hope my thoughts prove helpful to readers, especially those who are relatively new to classic menswear, and often ask how they can introduce smarter clothes to their wardrobe. Let’s start the dissection from the ground up.
Black shoes
Long before the menswear cognoscenti decreed that it was ok to wear black again, I’ve held a strong preference for black shoes. That kind of makes sense because, for most of my life, it’s what I’ve been told to pair trousers with - school and the office being the principal enforcers of the combination.
But the truth is, I could have worn more brown shoes at any point in the last 20 years. Over that time, office dress codes haven’t so much relaxed as popped a couple of Valium and put on a Bob Marley record, and the “no brown in town” rule is about as carefully observed as a VAR decision.
So my reluctance to wear brown can’t really be blamed on anything beside my own "spectrum of worries”. Or more accurately, the dizzying spectrum of choice: oak, antique, chestnut, museum, walnut. Am I buying shoes or building a cabinet? All wonderful colours and, with my menswear beginner’s luck, all guaranteed to be an ever-so-slightly different shade to what I actually wanted.
But black is black, with little margin for error - a critical (if unrealistic) precept when I started my menswear journey. And so, across my tassels, pennys, lace-ups and slippers, black dominates. Of course I’m a little more assured now, and I do own brown shoes; I really like the John Lobb Lopez in dark brown museum calf - but even that’s pretty black.
Dark trousers
Having pitched my tent in the black shoes camp, the most natural and versatile trouser partner seemed to be either mid-grey (above) or charcoal. I think taupe-coloured trousers can also look quite chic with black shoes, but there’s two reasons why charcoal usually prevailed.
The first is that charcoal just seemed a little less menswear-y. Take a look at most guys around you, and almost certainly they'll be wearing something very dark on their bottom half. So, to my eyes at least, even something relatively dark like mid-grey stood out in a non-sartorial crowd.
Whereas charcoal, although notionally a smarter colour, seemed better at hiding in plain sight. Seated at a table in the dimly lit corner of a local pub, my trousers might just be mistaken for washed black denim. Of course, the dainty loafers, one-inch belt and double pleats would eventually give the game away, but I’d pass a sniff test.
The second factor: charcoal is more of a workhorse. We all accept that one of the keys to the longevity of a quality wardrobe is to not hammer your clothes every day. Brush them, hang them and give them the occasional day off. But that logic was often overpowered by the zeal of this particular menswear newbie: I like these trousers, I’ve paid good money for these trousers, hence I shall wear these trousers.
And charcoal seemed better at hiding those tell-tale signs of excessive wear: creases and the odd spillage (sparkling water, maybe a cold-pressed juice, never beer). So it was a practical selection that allowed me to get comfortable with tailored clothes, without feeling like I needed to go out and immediately splurge on another pair to keep up appearances.
Lighter tops
Finally we move to the torso.
The sheer darkness of the bottom half naturally lends itself to higher contrast looks, and I maintain that a high-contrast look is one of the easiest ways for a guy developing their style to make a strong visual impact with minimal fuss.
For example, I’m still to be convinced that a good semi-smart summer outfit for most men requires more than dark high-twist trousers, a cream linen shirt unbuttoned to one hole below where you feel comfortable, and an accessory - a ring, watch, necklace - that feels personal to you.
In winter, charcoal flannels, a heavy white oxford-cloth shirt and your upper layer of choice - denim trucker, chore coat, knitwear, blazer or leather jacket (above, from Bryceland's) - should similarly see you through most eventualities.
Granted, these aren’t the most adventurous looks, but my ambition has always been to subtly improve my style, not get spotted by WWD.
The last factor in support of a lighter top might be the most personal. As someone with darker skin and an even darker beard, I always liked the contrast they offer. Give me a haircut, a shower and a crisp white shirt and I feel boxfresh.
Of course, as my beard slowly turns snow white, it’ll be interesting to see if my position flip flops. Expect to read an article from me extolling the virtues of black shirts in 2028!
The outfits
Finally, a quick word on the three outfits (where the only item I’ve changed is the trousers) - shot by Alex at Pitti.
The jacket is MTM from J. Mueser, made up in a Harris tweed from Campbell's of Beauly, and the shirt and tie are from Bryceland’s. Simon has covered a couple of commissions from J. Mueser, so I’ll just add that I’ve found their jackets really easy to wear. A clean, simple Neapolitan-inspired style with no element dominating another.
The charcoal trousers and the pale grey are both from The Anthology - the latter pair being my first ever bespoke trousers from them, so they’re a little slimmer than my usual cut.
The mid to dark grey trousers are the Aleks model from Kit Blake - a brand I’ve previously covered here. I still recommend them as a good well-priced RTW option to anyone looking for a fuller cut. They’re made from a 12oz Italian flannel, which feels very comfortable to wear, but (as you can see from some of the shots) did flap about a bit on a blustery afternoon.
My personal preference is for a heavier cloth (The Anthology trousers are between 14oz and 18oz), but I’ve been told by Kit Blake that they plan to release heavier cloth versions in the future, which is welcome news for me.
I hope the three looks help illustrate how much difference the trousers can make, and I present them largely without comment - by this point in the article, you should know which iteration I prefer! However, I’d be really interested to hear which one readers like and why.
That said, there are two thoughts on the photos that I’d like to share.
First, while I think the charcoal trousers work best with black shoes and the light grey with brown (unfortunately, I didn’t pack any to change into), the Kit Blake trousers would sit well with either - another strike for the versatility of mid-grey.
My second musing relates to the extent to which taste is shaped by our physical environment. In London, where the black tarmac seems permanently rain-slicked and the air itself can feel grey, dark shoes and trousers seem less of a style choice and more of a visual echo.
However, against the lambent sandstone streets of Florence, even I must humbly concede, the light grey trousers (which I usually wear the least) look bloody gorgeous.
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Florence photos by Alex Natt
From a practical point, for jackets that are already light in color, it can be hard to find even lighter color pants, unless you want to go cream/ecru.

One of my favorite pairings in my own closet is a light colored linen blend jacket with dark grey trousers:
I do this a lot in summer as well, also with brown trousers… I have been pretty much “inspired” by Simon’s article on the cream linen jacket.
Hi, may I ask which shirt you are wearing? Looks top notch!
Thanks for the foto!
It’s always nice to see what the PS readers are wearing given the topic.
Seeing things in action prove the point, and I think it adds real value to PS overall.
Bravo, Manish! You’re clearly a man ahead of his time!” certainly is justified.
I have a jacket, not my best in any circumstance, in a golden herringbone with a faint turquoise windowpane check in HFW Worsted Allsport and probably the only trousers that I can pair that with is a darker brown, ideally very dark in a worsted or whipcord.
My blue jacket has lighter grey trousers in Airesco fabric and my navy jacket is with matching trousers (suit) or a unique dark grey/ charcoal whipcord trousers in W. Bill cloth.
Black shoes…I struggle slightly with that for some strange reason where a very very dark brown might be more of my choice but as I say, to each their own !
All sounds lovely 🙂
Lovely article. Beyond the style points, I do appreciate Manish’s writing style and humour. Hoping to see more contributions soon.
Thanks ever so much, Craig!
Manish – You’re writing is wonderful! You slayed me with the bit about being in a dark pub and wearing the thin belt and loafers!!
Best,
Robert
Thanks so much, Robert! I’m glad that you like that bit 🙂
Best,
Manish
IMO the look with the charcoal trousers is the sharpest. But you’re right the light grey really looks good against the Florentine background. And if I may add, Anthology have done a really good job there (as have you – thoroughly enjoyed this article, thank you, and not only because it validates my own shift towards darker colours). Bravo, Manish! You’re clearly a man ahead of his time!
Thank you, Alfred! Yes, The Anthology have made quite a few great trousers for me. Highly recommended by me!
Yet another wonderful post, Manish. I think the environment does play a big role — I find myself wearing pale trousers in sunny weather and darker ones in darker weather, although I have to admit that currently I almost always wear a darker top. The closest I get to an exception is wearing my beloved vintage camelhair jacket with either mid-grey flannels or brown cords, but those are both low-contrast looks.
Thanks so much, Isaac 🙂
hi Manish, I agree with you on this one. I probably wear charcoal or mid/dark grey trousers 80% of the time with jackets. Depending on the weather the material varies from flannel, to “non-suit worsted” (I forgot how Simon defined it in his article lately) to high twist, but the colors are pretty much the same. In addition to grey, also find a mottled dark green/brown covert trouser to be quite handy with tweed and more casual jackets.
As much as I like lighter colored trousers in theory, they always felt a bit too flashy to me to wear in practice. The cream twill that Simon and Gianluca wear so well is a great example. I love the idea, even bought a length of the fabric, but still haven’t had them made because I don’t think I will ever wear them enough to make sense. Maybe it is also because it is so rarely sunny enough in the winter where I live for them to make sense.
I am also in a same situation with shoes. I have tried all sorts of different shades of brown (calf and suede) but I find I wear black calf, and dark brown (testa di moro, as the Italians call it) calf or suede shoes about 90% of the time. It is a bit boring, but I find they go with about everything and also avoid dandyish connotations that lighter shoes can have.
That’s an excellent point concerning lighter colored shoes! I have several pairs of the lighter brown shades that I never wear that just take up space. So, while black and dark brown shoes may be considered by some to be a bit boring, they always work well and look great. Hopefully I can find a good home for my lighter brown shoes to a more adventurous owner.
Thank you for all of your contributions.
While stereotypical of the Unites States, I find burgundy (oxblood) shoes to be quite versatile with classic grays and blues. Loafers and Alden captoe oxfords are in my regular rotation.
The light shoe with dark suit look is not such a good one in my opinion.
I really like Bordeaux too. I have a pair being made now in a pretty dark bordeaux calf that should be really nice with blue. I tend to like Bordeaux that is more brown than purple, which is how some of the French tanneries tend to do it. E.g., the famous JM Weston 180 in Toucan is a beautiful color on the shelf, but one that I find very hard to wear.
To respond to Scott’s comment, for me snuff and tobacco suede are the worst of all. I love those colors, find them beautiful, and also very difficult to wear. They look nice with light suits, but I have very few occasions to wear light suits with very light brown shoes given the weather where I live. So I find that my shoes in those colors stay on the shelf most of the time.
Bordeaux is an interesting idea, thanks for the tip. I also have snuff and tobacco suede and wear them with olive and taupe/ light brown in the late Spring and Summer months only.
Nice points, Andrew B. I like the sound of those covert trousers a lot!
In my opinion, that color covert and beige/fawn cavalry are both great matches with tweeds, and also as a more formal alternative to chinos with casual clothes.
Interestingly it was Derek Guy who got me to experiment more with dark trousers, light jackets after he included this in one of his excited to wear posts, referring to it as “northern lights” : https://dieworkwear.com/2024/03/29/excited-to-wear-this-spring-5/
Whenever I see Manish’s name at the top of an article, I know it’s going to be a fun read. This one was no exception, not just because I already agreed with the premise.
I never understood the menswear ‘rule’ that you should wear a darker jacket and lighter trousers. To me it needs to be taken with a fistful of salt, along with ‘rules’ like always matching metals in your outfit and not wearing button down collar shirts with suits. Other than with a navy blazer (and even with that I’m starting to prefer dark grey over mid grey trousers), I find myself doing the opposite more often than not. Dark grey trousers go with nearly any jacket and help tone down just about any colour or pattern. It feels like a subtler way of enjoying tailored separates, more menswear than #menswear.
I don’t think it’s a rule, so much as a good foundational guideline that’s a lot easier to pull off. Since Derek Guy is quoted in this I’m aware he wrote elsewhere it’s easier to have a navy blazer with a variety of trousers than having dark trousers and a variety of jackets.
I just fundamentally disagree that it’s easier to pull off – it’s one of the few things I disagree with Derek on. I think lighter jacket/darker trousers is just as easy to pull off as the opposite. A pair of dark grey (but not quite charcoal) trousers goes with almost all jackets that you might want if you were building a wardrobe, including navy, brown, green and even other shades of grey (providing there is enough texture and pattern to clearly differentiate them).
I feel it is massively influenced by complexion and skin tone. Personally, I’m as pale as Simon but without the beard (and bald also) so my face can easily be washed out by pale colours. Unless I’m tanned for the 2 weeks each summer the tan stays, a light colour jacket will make me disappear.
Thanks ever so much, Alan! I wish I thought of the line “more menswear than #menswear”
You are more than welcome to borrow it, as it feels like something you would say. It felt like a slightly tongue in cheek way to articulate the message you were giving. Nothing wrong with dressing in a #menswear way – many people do it very elegantly – but there’s something to be said for being well dressed in a way that doesn’t stand out, or Simon’s ‘bus stop test’.
Great piece Manish, I love how you put some of my instincts and thoughts into words, something I could not have done in auch a lovely way!
It’s also perfect timing as I am still struggling with an evergreen question: what are trousers that are versatile as mid-grey flannel, but potentially can be washed at home? I would love to find an option that allows me to wear a jacket (often tweed, or tweed like patterns), but are a bit less formal than flannel? I tried a lot: grey chinos never seem to have enough structure that make them look good, other chinos crumple too quickly or are too low in the waist, too narrow or too wide in the leg etc.
I almost think that dark blue jeans go best with jackets, but they remain jeans with all its connotations in a professional service office environment…
@Manish and also @Simon, any help would be highly appreciated by me and my wallet, as I’d love to cut back on buying yet another two pairs of trousers to fulfill my objective of having versatile, everyday work trousers only to find out that they are again just not right.
I’m not Simon or Manish but have tried to find a solution to the same problem. I think you have to accept that there are some tradeoffs – you cannot have the smartness and drape of flannel with the practicality and ability to throw in the washing machine of jeans or chinos. That said, I recently bought a pair of trousers from Luxire in a 400g chino cotton (dark grey with a visible olive undertone) that don’t quite drape as well as wool but much better than any other cotton I have tried, with minimal dressing even after heavy wear. They felt equally appropriate with a sport coat in the office, and a Barbour and wellies while clay pigeon shooting.
So perhaps very heavy cotton twills are the best solution for your needs.
Thank you Alan, that’s a nice idea, let me have a look at that option, the weight and muted colour sound promising at first glance. Thank you for chiming in, despite me foolishly not addressing the community as a whole in my earlier post.
Hi Carl, though I’m not a menswear expert, but I did have similar questions to yours, and have found somewhat of an answer.
If you don’t mind a bit of ruggedness, then a pair of flat-front trousers, cut in the silhouette of a dress pants and in a sturdy cotton that is more on the desartured side but mid-light color intensity (e.g. #C3B091). It’s something I have the heck out of, because it just goes with everything, especially with colder tone jackets.
I like these trousers from Proper Cloth. Mid-grey made of heavy brushed cotton (15.1 oz / 430g). The cotton is softer than wool but drapes still drapes nicely thanks to the weight. Thanks to the weight and the drape, I find these enough to wear with a sports jacket—much better than a pair of grey chinos. However, the cotton is a slightly more casual look (a less corporate look than flannel) so these go well with a shirt or sweater.
https://propercloth.com/tailored-clothing/grey-heavy-brushed-cotton-stretch-dress-pant-229028.html
i’ve washed on wool setting VBC 340g flannels but they had a easy pant drawstring like waistband instead of side tabs. Someone like Collaro can make wool flannels with a hidden elastic waistband and can be washed.
Thanks so much, Carl 🙂
I think the readers have chipped in with some great suggestions!
Enjoyable theories, thanks Manish! For what it’s worth I think the fit of those paler bespoke trousers is absolutely lovely – slightly against the grain of the current wider style, but more flattering to my eye than the others
Thanks very much, Peter. They do look nice! I think I convince myself they’re a bit tight and they’re probably nowhere near as bad as I imagine.
Manish,
Great article – I particularly like your desire to be ‘undercover’ when away from fellow flaneurs (being discreet in the corner of the bar).
That said, I completely disagree about your case for light tops / dark bottoms. Quite brilliantly, with your Harris Tweed jacket and charcoal trousers you’ve picked one of the very few combos that usurps dark/light.
For the most part the majority who sport light / dark – particularly with tailoring – finish up making the wearer look like Bob Monkhousd.
Thank you so so much, David!
I love our disagreement on this topic, but I love the reference to Bob Monkhouse even more! 🙂
Really enjoyed the article Manish. I can certainly relate to your comment on a rainy physical environment. Living in the west of Ireland, where even in the summer there are likely to be more rainy days than sunny, paler trousers can feel out of place and even showy.
Great article Manish. The dark on top is a useful soft rule if you don’t have a good eye (e.g. just starting out).
To me it comes down to whether the jacket overpowers the trousers or not. A navy jacket will look great with a light coloured or neutral coloured trouser, but in reverse this is not really the case.
So for me the jacket has to either be a stronger colour (navy, burgundy, cream) or have a bold pattern (e.g. a gun club). This is why navy trousers are notoriously difficult to match with other jackets, only a really bold or perhaps burgundy jacket is ‘strong’ enough, but those are difficult jackets to wear. Interestingly, cream to me is also a strong colour, even though it’s light.
Thank you, Nils!
These are great points.
Another argument for the style of dark trousers and light top is winter weather, splashes from dirty water in puddles are much more likely to be hidden on dark trousers.
Manish, thanks for this delightful article!
One comment. You will wear brown shoes with mid-grey but not with flannels. I have worn dark brown Utah EG Dovers with charcoal worsted trousers and a dark brown and caramel checked jacket and find that they make things interesting,
Thank you, Robert!
That sounds like a really nice combination! I may have to rethink.
As a person of South Asian descent with black hair as well, I have always felt the dark bottom, lighter top worked more naturally for. It was PS that got me to try the reverse and realize that could also work well.
With black hair, I think black shoes provide natural balance in a vertical dimension. And then that leads to the dark trousers as Manish suggests. As well, a lighter top feels like it draws the eyes up towards the face, and down to my knees.
I also think that the dark hair and darker skin allows the dark bottom to balance with something lighter in the middle. Which probably doesn’t work as well for those farier amongst us, I guess.
Thanks very much, Chancellor. I’m glad it chimes with your experience too.
I’m a pale man and I wear the dark bottom, light top combination a lot. I usually wear a blue shirt rather than white. Maybe that’s the thing that makes it work.
My beard is mostly white now Manish and my style choices haven’t changed. I suspect yours won’t either.
I was looking for a comment that said this. The dark hair balance is key. I have light brown hair. If my bottom half is dark I look like two mismatched halves. Conversely, I can have a very light pair of bottoms just fine.
Great article, Manish. However, I am missing my main reason why I only wear dark trousers on some days, especially in autumn/winter. The weather.
When the asphalt is wet, light-coloured trousers quickly get dirty. This is especially burdensome when you have to bring the trousers to the cleaner. Grey, anthracite or dark-brown are more forgiving in this respect.
Exactly! Piles of wet dirty leaves are a my local problem. Our pavements get very slippery so rubber soled shoes or boots are a must.
Dark flannels and cavalry twills are my smart casual choice with tailored tweed jackets. I usually wear heavy moleskin jeans in the autumn/winter. They can be machine washed and dry overnight. Olive trousers are another practical colour, e.g. with a navy peacoat.
Thank you Markus S. Definitely a good point!
Intriguing topic, this is something I’m always trying to understand more for myself. Only speaking of tailoring, I find that it’s a bit easier to wear darker bottoms with lighter uppers, as it is often a bit less showy or loud, less likely to upset people who might take offence for whatever reason. Though when I’m talking about lighter upper, I mean medium at the lightest and paired with very dark bottom.
Generally though in 4 out of 5 looks I prefer lighter bottoms, I think this could most likely be because I got interested in tailoring during the Italian era of 2010s. Lighter bottoms just seem more sporty, youthful and fun against the stricter and to my eye often slightly awkward in proportions darker bottomed looks. Big thing here is of course how one wants to present themselves.
Interestingly few of the Simons looks I’ve saved for inspiration are actually with darker bottoms:
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2023/05/look-after-things-you-love-repairing-my-reverso.html
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2022/05/pirozzi-dupioni-silk-jacket-review.html
Also the photograph in Japanese train with the man standing next to seated women, the various contrasts that are present in the image are somehow very captivating. The photographer is https://tokyostreet.photo/ , he has some great street photographs from Tokyo, highly recommended.
This article resonates with me. When I started out, my trousers of choice for the office were light grey flannel. Over time, I’ve switched to dark grey. It’s a richer color, more versatile, less dandy.
Thank you Manish for this excellent article! Darker trousers solve a lot of problems and always look fantastic and masculine. This article does a superb job of clarifying the usefulness of this combination.
Really appreciate that, Scott 🙂
Really like your writing style, Manish. You’re very engaging and fun to read
Thank you so much, El Chango!
Lighter trousers always seemed impractical to me. They easily get stained or muddy when one moves about or sit down. Rain splashes up dirt from the asfalt, and you never know about the seats on the subway. Melting snow mixed with mud is hard to avoid parts of the year.
I imagine this is everywhere (well maybe not snow), or is it worse in places like Sweden, where I happen to live?
I agree. As much as I love the look of light trousers, they seem impractical to me (perhaps because I’m more clumsy than most and travel through city elements). Plus with two small kids who are constantly tugging at my legs with stained hands, there’s no way they would survive the practicalities of my home. But I’m sure many gents have figured a way to pull it off, and my hat off to those that do.
Another really well written and informative piece Manish! I thoroughly enjoyed your work and the part about loafers, belt and pleats I could really resonate with. A joke I believe I will remember for a long time
Haha! Thank you, Mikkel!
Hi Manish, I want thank you for this quality and honest post. Its one of the post, which for me, make Permanentstyle stand out. Real articles from real people and not the 1000 topic of a copied blogpost or video from somewhere else!
For me its the also the same: black jeans, indigo jeans, dark flannel are my favorites that I love!
Hi Max
That’s so kind of you to say! I really appreciate it.
hi Manish,
Fine article.
I must say that to my eye navy trousers would look just fine with that jacket.
But that’s my eye and why I won’t get to write for PS.
Hi Joners
I can see that 🙂 The jacket has lot of very dark blue in it, so why not!
I agree that a good plain dark blue trouser can work very well with brown and green based coats. Always with a pattern or texture, be it herringbone, tweed, or similar overcheck.
Simon has always pushed back on this combination, but go to Spain, France, Portugal or Italy and see how often it appears and how good it can look.
It’s fascinating. I have yet to fully get used to enjoying lighter trousers—I can’t explain why.
However, I spent (a bit too much) time on Pinterest the other day and put together jacket outfits based on color combinations, like darker bottoms and lighter tops. Perhaps this can help me dig deeper into the subject?
https://se.pinterest.com/jonsko/blazer-combinations/
Manish,
How do you rate the Brycelands shirt? I was asking the same question of Simon, vis a vis the PS oxfords.
Basically which Oxford BD shirt can you beat the hell out of and still enjoy for a reasonable length of time?
Hi Joners
I’m due to write a review of the MTM Bryceland’s Oxford (which this is).
However, I’ve worn their OCBD for about six years now and I really like it! Very well made (mine is only starting to fray at the cuffs and buttons have fallen off) and a more classic silhouette.
Hope that helps 😊
I enjoyed this article a lot. Most of my jackets look great with different shades of grey, including charcoal, with olives, and with lighter colors. But I had one jacket, a blue-grey Shetland tweed, that just didn’t look right with greys or any darker colors. The solution was navy flannels. Normally navy flannels are the poor relation of flannel trousers, hardly ever recommended. But for that jacket, they work perfectly.
Three cheers for this one. The light trouser/ dark top work fine in warmer climes/ warmer weather wherever one is, but generally the dark bottom/ lighter top looks so much more chic.
One could reason this endlessly (as you’ve done here for at least several paragraphs), though it’s one of those things that simply works, whatever the logic.
The dark pants are grounding, so leave the color, patterned tie and general excitement to the upper part of the outfit.
A number of photos in the lookbook show Simon wearing a bright red knit cap… with a darker toned outfit. This relates roughly to what you address in this article.
Again, excitement up top, earthiness towards the earth. (Rudolf Steiner must have written about this 🙂
Hi Leif
Lovely points. Thanks 🙂
I think its much simpler than that. It all deoends on you complexion. If you dark skinned, a lighter top freshens up your face. If you fair a dark top creates a more dramatic – not dull! – contrast
Really nice article Manish!
And don’t worry about not being Agnelli, this is much tastier than the watch over the cuff…
Haha! Thanks for the support, Dario.
I feel like the late 2000s/early 2010’s menswear community brainwashed themselves into believing that black is a bad color and should be avoided – of course unless this is the proper, (oh how I hate this expression) thing to wear. I don’t know how this happened, maybe everyone looked at the summer Pitti Uomo photos and decided that this is the correct way to dress.
And it just wasn’t true. Lots of people wear black, because it’s easy and it mosty looks good. Black trousers are the easiest thing ever. But once you start avoiding them, the number of color combinations with dark colored pants starts to shrink. Take jeans out of the equation, and you’re left with mostly charcoal and dark brown. Both are really useful, but the early menswear was too flashy to settle on something so normal.
Manish, thanks for an entertaining and educational piece. You are not old enough to remember, but among Ivy League educated gentlemen at a certain time it was a uniform to wear khakis with navy blazers, with gold buttons, OCBD, and a repp tie, generally with tassel loafers or penny loafers. It was not even a conscious decision, it was simply what you wore if a suit was not called for. Tweed sports coats were an alternative. My brother, who is determinedly not Ivy League, refers to the outfit as tribal dress. What I recall is that everyone wore it, from 16 years old to advanced age. I still do on occasion. Curiously, dark charcoal dress trousers were considered a notch up, but not really suitable for a board meeting or court appearance. Times change, but a little historical context is always interesting, at least to me. And I freely admit that my perspective is American, East Coast, old line corporate. We made allowances for creatives.
Thank you, Tom!
Lovely to hear how some of these patterns of dark top/light bottoms dressing might have come about.
The comparative photos in this with the same jacket were really helpful to illustrate the points.
I’m really pleased to hear that, TCN.
I’m intrigued by the throwaway comment suggesting flannels with a denim trucker jacket. Have and love both but it would never occur to me to wear them together!
Hi John
Bryceland’s do it well, and I really like it for milder days.
Excellent post, and on a subject that has been on my mind a lot lately.
On the practical side, while dark trousers do a good job of hiding stains and wear, in my experience they attract lint and animal hair like nothing else. I have a pair of black jeans and a pair of navy trousers, neither of which get nearly as much wear as I had expected just because of how much lint they attract. I’m curious, do you have that problem with your charcoal trousers? As a father to young kids and a pet owner who works from home, for better or for worse I find myself having to stick to the middle ground of indigo jeans, khaki chinos, and mid-grey trousers if I want clothes that will be low-maintenance and still be presentable when I do go out. But I would love to have more options.
beautifully written piece, and dashing photos. looking forward to the 2028 update. 🙂
Thank you, James! Haha, I’ve set myself up haven’t I?!
What is the cloth and weight of the dark charcoal trousers? by Anthology?
Hi Daniel
It was a 17/18oz charcoal herringbone (very subtle) heritage flannel from Fox.
I think they might be repackaging their heritage flannels as they’re not available on the Fox site at the moment.
Manish,
Do you find the Fox Heritage Herringbone Flannel (17/18 oz) trousers to be too heavy/hot for summer? Do they hold a crease and drape better than Fox 13 oz Classic Flannel?
Cheers,
Robert
Hi Robert
I think they’re definitely to hot for summer. I do think they hold a crease and drape better than the Classic Flannel.
Cheers,
Manish
Hi Nanish,
Just catching up with my reading. I tend to agree, I always go lighter on the top with tweed jackets. Usually wear with flannel or a darker jean. Only the other way around for blazers. For casual generally darker top except for a swing or Harrington style jacket in the summer and sometimes with shorts.
Anyway, the main reason for writing is that it’s nice to see someone smiling in these pictures. Rather than the faux moody looks, so often seen, especially at Pitti.
Keep it fun.
Thanks Stephen! How can you not smile when you’re in such a beautiful city surrounded by friends? 🙂
I’m with you on the versatility of this colour combination, Manish. Those of us from subcontinental ancestry are better suited to light materials near the face, and paired with a darker trouser the outfit is understated and timeless.
Right there with you. I thrifted a pair of charcoal trousers recently that have become the centrepiece of my wwardrobe lately. Despite being “too formal” for most of my coats, being worsted, in such an unassuming colour, they work really well for just about anything, my most used combination being with a light grey woollen sport coat. With a navy jacket, it easily turns into a “blazer and charcoal” look without a blazer, too.
And hello, fellow black shoe extremist! Being broke, for the longest time, I had nothing but one pair of black shoes, and I wore that with everything. As long as the trousers weren’t too dark brown, it worked.
Thoughtful piece Manish – thanks for sharing as always.
I have strong memories as a young man of teachers wearing black polyester trousers with overly-padded checked jackets and polo shirts, and have been very put off dark trousers with tweed up top ever since, but you’ve shown how well that contrast can be done with grace – like a daemon exorcised! Thanks for that.
Thanks so much, Zachary.
Haha! Sounds like we might have had the same teacher!
Great timing, Manish! I’m looking to add a pair of black shoes to my wardrobe. Much as I’d love to rock the Alden loafers or any loafers in general, I’m yet to find a pair that fit me right. So, I’ve narrowed it down to these two—which do you think is the more versatile pick?
https://www.mouldedshoeny.com/shop/alden-539
https://www.mouldedshoeny.com/shop/558-original
Great article, and I particularly enjoy Manish’ disarming writing style!
I’m very new to the classic menswear scene and have started to build out my wardrobe, though I think I’m at risk of creating a disparate set of items that don’t naturally pair well with each other.
My question to you is as follows: if you were to have one pair of trousers to use as a base to then expand one’s wardrobe from, what would you go for? I’ve seen lots about grey flannels etc but I’m also looking for something that’s perhaps more suitable for transitioning into Spring/Summer. Would you suggest a pair of Grey high twists? I have to be careful where to buy from if purchasing RTW due to having broad thighs & a narrower waist. Any suggestions on where you might look also very welcome.
I work in financial services and can generally dress how I wish and whilst I wear a suit most days, I want to branch out and develop my own style rather than putting on a ‘uniform’. I’m endeavouring to work through the treasure trove of content on PS but wanted to reach out directly.
Thanks very much in advance.
Manish jacket and trousers combinations look fine. He avoids the dandy, trying-too-hard look.
Charcoal trousers are very practical. Black shoes pair well with them.
Manish, this was a great read; the humour that accompanies your passages of self-reflection never fails to make me smile. Articles like this (and Simon’s cold colour capsule) are helpful in showing how one might come to develop a personal style that deviates a bit from the formulaic #menswear templates of colour selection and contrast pairings.
Thank you, Craig! I really really appreciate that 😊
Good day Manish,
I thoroughly enjoyed this article—it’s a real game-changer for me. Thank you!
I started my PS journey two years ago and began building a capsule wardrobe last year from the ground up. Following the guides on the site, I’ve been gradually upgrading my pieces, moving on from brands like Ralph Lauren, Brooks Brothers, and Cole Haan.
I also relate to your inclination for black shoes—I’m naturally drawn to them as well because they feel so effortlessly chic. While I know brown is often seen as more versatile and that I’ll appreciate my capsule wardrobe once it’s complete, your article has reignited my appreciation for black shoes. I’m now more excited to experiment with black shoes and dark trousers paired with brighter tops, rather than the more conventional combination of brown shoes, lighter trousers, and darker tops.
Oh, and as someone of Southeast Asian descent with a tan complexion, nothing makes me feel fresher than a crisp white OCBD!
Never move on from Ralph Lauren.
Another great article, thanks.
Relative newcomer to classic menswear and looking to build my wardrobe, and working through the back catalogue of PS to assist with this!
If you were to purchase one pair of trousers that are season appropriate so perhaps looking towards Spring/Summer, what would you go for? A pair of grey high twists? I struggle somewhat purchasing RTW due to having a narrow waist and big thighs, so any recommendations in that regard also helpful.
Very best, Sean
Ps. I did comment on Friday but it seems to have disappeared.
Apologies, my omission, I’ve just seen my comment above! Feel free to delete this
Dark grey trousers are highly underrated. This post makes me happy that I just got another pair! I have them in flannel, serge and tropical wool. I used to have a wonderful pair in whipcord from Paul Stuart.
Manish, what are your thoughts on navy trousers? I tend to stick with neutral trousers in the grey and brown/tan families. I don’t consider navy a neutral, though I have seen some people call it such because it’s an easy-to-wear colour. I find them difficult to wear because navy is a strong colour and I don’t want my lower half overpowering my upper half. I can see navy trousers going well with the gun club check jacket because it’s rather bold, but there may still be some competition going on. Your complexion may be able to handle it better than a pale complexion like mine.
I’ve paired navy trousers with burgundy sweaters, which I find have a nice balance. But I don’t think they work with a grey jacket unless it has a bold pattern. And even then, I tried it once and the pattern just didn’t seem bold enough when I saw myself in photos because the trousers looked too bold in comparison.
I absolutely love the tailored style in this photo. I would love to know the width of the bottom of these pants (opening leg). I love them so wide that they fall perfectly over the shoe
Manish and/or Simon,
On this theme what would you pair with Rubato’s dark brown chinos?
I find the mid layer easy to pair – T-shirt or oxford in either white or faded blue and mid grey knitwear. However I’m never quite settled on the colour of outerwear – black seems too dark, so perhaps another grey or neutral?