Assisi double-breasted navy blazer: Review

I’ve settled into a bit of a rhythm with Korean tailors Assisi now. I love their soft-but-elegant style, I trust their fit and execution, and I know their double-breasted in particular is something I wear the hell out of.
So my next commission was a navy-cashmere double-breasted jacket. I’ve always been a fan of double-breasted in terms of what flatters me - I’m slim and tall but not broad, so anything that adds breadth to that is the perfect combination.
But I think I’ve realised in recent years that I also really like double-breasteds from a style point of view. I’m not the most adventurous dresser (consciously, deliberately) and a double-breasted rather than single often creates just enough interest for me.
That’s not to say I’d want all my jackets that way - variety is still nice, and interest can just as easily come from the rest of the outfit - but the average is definitely tipping in that direction.
In fact looking back, perhaps I always knew this: my problem was that I tended to commission DBs in unusual materials. My first real bespoke was from Anderson & Sheppard, and most of those were DBs. But I often went for things like royal-blue flannel, or very pale grey.
Those were dandy suits, and it’s not surprising that they haven’t survived where my tan cord and grey check have.
The key to a navy DB being useful, for me, is when it can be worn with both denim (shirt and/or jeans) and something smart like a white shirt and grey flannels. And then lots of things in between in terms of formality.
For a navy jacket like this it’s helpful if it’s a fairly soft make (so not too smart or unusual with jeans) and a material with a bit of texture. A textured wool or even shetland tweed could potentially have worked, but a blazer I saw on Ethan Newton in a navy camelhair (above) convinced me that that, or cashmere, could work too.
As I often say these days, most of my commissions are based on seeing things made up, in the flesh. I get so tired of making wrong decisions. In fact, now I think about it, I’ll give my Assisi pieces to them for their upcoming London trunk show, just in case anyone wants to see them in person. Like sharing good ideas.
The photos taken here, during Pitti, show the jacket in probably its most unusual combination in this vein: matching blue denim on the top and the bottom. (Bryceland’s sawtooth above Rubato jeans.)
This is great for Pitti, where the TPO (time, place, occasion) make double-matching-denim appropriate. But it’s not something I’d wear in quite the same way at home. There I’m more likely to swap in:
- A light-blue western shirt, to avoid the matchiness
- A light-blue denim-but-not-western shirt, if the first is too showy
- A blue oxford shirt, if that’s still too showy
There you go, a sliding scale of showiness, in terms of blue shirts to wear with jeans and a DB blazer. Pick the level that suits your style and TPO.
The jacket is then nice with grey or brown flannel trousers on the bottom. Any of the shirts above could pair with it, plus something as smart as a poplin.
I was a little unsure about the texture of the cashmere with jeans, but I think it works - a touch unusual, and it would certainly be more so with more beaten-up jeans, but it’s OK.
The combination is also helped by two things I think: the white T-shirt and the black shoes and belt.
We’ve talked about T-shirts under shirts before, and I understand why some people don’t like them. But it does help break up the mass of denim here, and give the eye something to focus on. The jacket doesn’t have anything else - no gold buttons, no raised seams or patch pockets - so it helps even more.
Black shoes, meanwhile, are a really good partner to navy on top - something we covered a year ago here.
In terms of the jacket itself, I went for the same style and make as the jacket from this summer suit that Assisi made me. There were very few choices therefore, and I knew exactly what I was getting.
Interestingly, the more I’ve worn Assisi tailoring, the more I notice things about it that I didn’t at first. The sleevehead, for example, has nothing in it - the shape is created purely by the way the sleeve is eased into the armhole at the top.
This pushes their style a little more towards Neapolitan in theory, but the shape they get in the sleevehead remains more central Italian - you could see it as the best of both worlds (shape but softness).
The other thing I noticed only recently was the way the bottom hem is made - it’s the same as the Michael Browne coat we discussed in detail recently, where the facing stops short of the bottom in order to prioritise a clean bottom edge. A small detail, but if nothing else it demonstrates how much Assisi consider every aspect of their make.
If I had to find a negative in the jacket it would be the buttons, which are a little small for a blazer and a touch more polished than I’d normally have. The size doesn’t bother me though, and if I want to switch to something completely unpolished and dusty in the future, that’s not a difficult thing to do.
I’ll show other combinations with the jacket in future posts. For the moment, the clothes shown here are:
- Bryceland’s sawtooth westerner shirt
- Permanent Style undershirt
- Rubato Lot Nr1 jeans, dark blue
- Rubato black woven leather belt
- Ralph Lauren vintage crocodile loafers
- Hermes oversized silk scarf
- Permanent Style navy watch cap
- Jacket cloth 84802 from the Harrisons Cashmere Overcoating bunch
Assisi are coming to London for the first time at the end of February. Details here. Prices for bespoke and their handmade-to-measure also listed there.
I don’t know how to say this but to me it doesn’t feel quite ‘you’. Maybe that links to your caucus of prior commissions; there’s something about the ciardi style which I think does feel ‘most you’? Really hard to articulate..!
interesting, for me it suits simon very well – he showed a few times already the full navy look and I think its really good 🙂
What would be interesting for me if softer labels like in the direction of a peacoat would be even better suited for jeans and flanell?
Same here. Also, just judging from the pics the blazer rather looks like a piece of outerwear, a peacoat perhaps? An interesting read anyway, thank you.
Proper bespoke cut. Much better than the recent J Mueser!
A very interesting use of texture has turned it into something akin to a pea coat on a diet. This is particularly evident in how it has been styled with jeans in the last photograph. It works reasonably well though.
“Pea coat on a diet”, that’s exactly it! Or a refined and domesticated pea coat.
I agree with this. The visible texture looks similar to my USN peacoat. I imagine feels massively different though!
I had the same thought! I also agree that it works well enough, nonetheless, I’d like to see it styled in a more traditional manner (i.e., flannel trousers, ocbd, tie) to see if that will make the jacket look more like conventional tailoring rather than outerwear.
I love the jacket and styling – a good example of how much better the casual outfits on this page have become during the past few years. The rugged materials, roomier fit and white tshirt with a couple of extra buttons left undone is great.
Regarding the jacket, with the thick fabric and the hefty peak lapels, it reminds me of a sophisticated peacoat. My question then, is: does this work inside too, or does it become too hot? I feel the double denim often works best when there is a jacket or sweater covering parts of the shirt.
It does work inside to an extent, yes. It’s quite cool when worn open. Depends quite a lot on what level your heating is at, but it certainly doesn’t feel like obviously outerwear
Hi Simon, I recall you mentioned in the past that you didn’t prefer matching a DB jacket with jeans. Has that changed over time, and if so, why?
Thanks.
It’s about being safe or pushing things a bit. For a lot of readers who want something safer, an SB is probably better, or a better place to start.
But if you are going to do a DB, a soft make and material makes it a lot easier
Thanks Simon – can I ask about the choice of cashmere. I think you’ve recently suggested with overcoats (Etore de Cesare) that wool is a better choice to pair with denim/increase versatility – and I really like the fabrics you’ve created with Fox.
FWIW, I think this looks great as pictured but why did you think cashmere would work in this setting of a versatile blazer?
Thanks.
A tweed in the same colour would have been safer, but seeing that camel hair on Ethan convinced me cashmere would be good to in the right make
Hi Simon,
I think the blazer and the way you have combined with other pieces looks really very good. Personally I would wear those combinations ‘in town’ in a casual setting. In fact I have some similar items, so may well pick up on this idea. As for the cashmere with jeans, I think it works well because it’s thicker and a little ‘fluffy’ ( not exactly the right word!) textured. I remember a previous post from you with a navy single breasted thicker material around town. Great pictures and ideas. Thanks
The jacket looks to be a nice cut in a nice cloth and is doubtless very versatile .
That said, the double denim does make it look like a shrunken pea coat and it will doubtless blossom dressed differently.
The big deal for me are the buttons. Personally I’ve been trying to get you to experiment with metal buttons for a while – done correctly, they are an absolute killer but great attention has to be paid to the correct selection. IMNSHO some metal buttons would lift this into a different stratosphere!
Thanks David. I won’t be going metal for the moment, but larger and perhaps a little more texture in the horn could be nice
I’m jumping on the “let’s get Simon to wear brass buttons train!” I completely agree. This looks fine because the Western shirt has visual interest, but this jacket with an OCBD would be better with brass buttons – Ethan’s outfit would not look as good without them.
Does it help that I’ve tried brass buttons before and didn’t like them? That was a while ago though…
They don’t work on that jacket but would on the navy cashmere. The jacket requires it really. You would likely feel the same if you swapped them.
Thanks Nicholas. I think I’m going to disagree that the jacket requires it, as I like it with horn buttons. But I’m certainly willing to try it in the future.
I have also tried it on a pea coat in the past, and ended swapping back to horn
Stick to your plan Simon. Metal buttons in brass or something bright makes them the focal point and attracts the eye. It takes away from the understated elegance of going tone on tone on tone. Perhaps blued steel. The clean neutrality of dark and double denim draws people in whereas a pale oxford shirt or chambray makes it ordinary and work a day. In the temperate SW of the USA where I am a jacket and dressing up are becoming more and more optional. Sliding scale the slippery slope of casual dressing. Is this slope a lack of manners? no sense of occasion? I’m making my personal statement and to he** with what you think? Dressing Dow or dressing poorly is seen as a badge of honor and political independence. One wouldn’t want to appear elite of look smart here. So keep the jacket special. Love the cashmere with denim. High with Low. Opposites attract. Besides, going brass with the buttons is akin to wearing a large gold Rolex. Both say look at me! I made it.
Hi Simon. Beautifully understated. To pinch one of your lines from an earlier piece “This feels like me”. Love the denim under navy, and, perhaps in this case, only black shoes would work this well or look quite as elegant?
Yes I think so, or the brown would have to be very dark
“My first real bespoke was from Anderson & Sheppard,” Are you saying that your earlier suits and jackets from Graham Browne were not real bespoke? If so, please explain why.
Graham Browne did quite a lot of the making by machine, not hand, including padding the chests. I guess up to you what your definition of bespoke is there
My definition of bespoke would be the tailor creates and uses a unique pattern for each customer rather than adjusting a block as in MTM. Unlike you apparently, I would therefore consider your tailoring from Graham Browne to be be bespoke. Perhaps you could suggest another description.
You also wrote “Those [A&S DBs] were dandy suits, and it’s not surprising that they haven’t survived…” Perhaps you could explain why they have not survived. Were they damaged or flimsy or did they fall apart? I would be gutted to spend tens of thousands of pounds on bespoke garments that did not last more than a few years. Is that the reason you no longer use A&S?
No Kent, the suits were very well made, they were just too dandy for me to wear often. That was the point of that passage.
I would define bespoke as needing both the unique pattern and the handwork of padding the chest, the collar, the ironwork etc. But there is no clean definition. Poole usually don’t pad the chest by hand for instance, but then they do do lots of other handwork that a Graham Browne for instance doesn’t do.
Cashmere overcoating 580gsm – based on my experience with a much lighter weight wool-cashmere sports coat, this commission is going to wear very warm. Could be both a blessing and a curse.
Would you plan to wear it like an overcoat and remove it inside, Simon?
Any ideas about extending it’s utility as the mercury rises?
I do run pretty cold in the winter (and more so as I get older) so I’m not so concerned about that. I have also worn it inside (open and it’s fine if the place isn’t overheated). But that is personal obviously and if you were concerned about that you could certainly go lighter
Hi Simon,
Could the outfit be fine with gold buttons? I always like these with blazers. Or perhaps black enamel/gold.
I read the review of the Brycelands MTM and wondered whether they would also do a DB jacket.
If you really had to choose between Brycelands and Assisi which would you choose?
Well, Assisi but that would be partly because it would be bespoke.
See above in the comments on gold buttons!
Also, Simon
Why didnt you go with camel as did Ethan? Is camel more robust and can it be made as thick as your cashmere?
It can, yes, I just liked the idea of cashmere! Camel might have been more sensible though, it would have been rather cheaper…
Hwy simon as i age i also begin to like dbs and that thejr actually pretty easy to dress down. I have a navy db too in wool. I imagine a dark brown db in a soft cut in wool would also be very wearable?
Yes I think it would be. Nice to get some more texture or even a little pattern in there with brown I find. Navy is more expected in a solid cloth, brown less so
Do you think a linen like the sueded linen ones by the anthology (i forgot which bunch of fabrics they’re from) would be nice?
They are a little smooth – I like my brown one (it’s Solbiati Art du Lin) but it’s borderline as a jacket on its own. You want something with more texture ideally
Thanks simon. Any recommendations? Speaking of texture, does a dark brown cotton work as a db? Not sure if cottons got much textute though or willl the rumples help there ?
I think it could be nice, never had one made those so not entirely sure
I have a navy heavy linen DB from Anglo Italian which I find very useful. I think it was this fabric, but in navy: https://angloitalian.com/products/ait-065?_pos=2&_fid=721c3c3a8&_ss=c
Not sure, if it is still available.
You’ve inspired me to look into a commission of such a piece. Maybe a wool cashmere blend? Or even a heavy flannel? Simon, do you have any recommendations?
I prefer the look with the Dartmoor you posted on IG and will try to emulate that. Great way to wear tailoring to dinner in NYC or on the weekends generally.
Yes, absolutely.
I think a wool/cashmere blend would be great, maybe a flannel although that risks looking a little too much like a suit jacket sometimes.
I went through some suggestions on this piece
Tempted to go with a 90 wool 10 cash mix from Fox in midnight. FF21 if anyone has experience with it.
Also inspired by your cashmere SB, which you used in the “How to Add Interest to a Navy Blazer” article.
Anglo to my eye has the nicest DB sport coat. With perfect generous and straight lapels. Waiting on the next trunk show in NYC to get it all spun up.
Another reason for metal buttons…no confusing it with an orphaned suit jacket!
Simon, on the more technical side, what kind of cloth is that? The material is cashmere, but what has it been woven into? Maybe is not even woven and is something like felt? Thanks!
It is woven, but I don’t know what the weave is. It doesn’t matter so much with something like cashmere where the fluffiness often obscures any weave texture anyway
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I prefer a belly on the lapels of double breasted jackets, I feel it makes them more casual and loosens up the look. So these rather straight lapels don’t work for me. I put mother of pearl buttons on a similar jacket which I had made and I liked the look. It broke up the wall of blue. I also am not a fan of the white T-shirt under the dress shirt look. Sorry to sound critical, I still enjoyed reading.
Really nice, thoughtful piece. Very useful. Thanks
Love it, Simon. Feels like a nice option for nights out in the city (like you’ve done with your Ferdinando Caraceni as well). Do you think you might do another navy double-breasted jacket like this in a summer material for the warmer months of the year as well? Like a hopsack or WSL?
Good point Tom, yes I can see that being useful. I did do one years ago with Caliendo but that is a little close in fit now!
That Caliendo is a beautiful jacket, perfect cut. I prefer the neopolitan approach to the current brycelands/Korean look. Just altogether “too much jacket” with the latter for me.
I’ve noted a propensity to combine what I would consider not just tailoring, but fairly formal tailoring, with what I would consider very casual shirts. The double breasted here with a dark denim shirt and the black suit from a few days ago with a western style shirt. Can you expound on that a bit? For example, I have one double breasted sport coat in a gun club plaid. I occasionally wear it with a black rollneck and I think THAT’S a little racy despite not thinking of myself as a conservative “in the box” dresser.
Hey Mark,
I think casual shirts like that can be really nice, particularly when they are close to dress shirts in some way. For example, a blue denim shirt or western shirt where the blue is a similar colour to a classic oxford. Or that western shirt from a few days ago in white.
I think it’s worth you trying – you might find it’s both casual but subtle, even more so than a black roll neck
That photo of Ethan inspired me to purchase a (vintage 1930’s) DB a while ago (with gold buttons – shock horror). I haven’t built up the nerve to wear it with double denim yet but you’ve inspired me. A navy watch cap and scarf as per your last image might give me enough camouflage to try it out without being too self-conscious. I’m not sure I can pull off the street slippers a-la-Ethan quite yet though…great article
Personally, I think white t shirts work well under Western style stuff because it’s part of the whole Americana look. It’s deliberate and part if the “look” whereas under a dressier shirt it often looks like an accident or just that a tie has been removed to reveal an undergarment after a long shift. I think tshirts can work with a proper ocbd for similar reasons.
Yes I’d agree, good point Fred. It’s so weird how much of it is about our associations
So your comments on Graham Browne demonstrate how up yourself you now are.
You wrote a piece on them many years ago titled “My first British bespoke suit”
I don’t think there’s any need to be rude like that, please don’t. It’s needless and undermines any useful discussion.
My knowledge and understanding has evolved over the years – in fact it’s also broadened and become more open-minded. There is no clean definition of bespoke, because everyone doesn’t use it the same way, even tailors. I’ve set out above how I’d define it.
Apologies if my comment came over as rude, absolutely not my intention, but if your first British bespoke suit was bespoke then, surely it is still bespoke now?
My thought is that a bespoke suit is exactly that (using the SR Bespoke definitions), so it’s hard to sort of go well it was bespoke then but it’s not as bespoke now because I’ve broadened my knowledge since then on degrees of bespoke.
Either it is bespoke or it isn’t, surely?
Hi Simon, I really like this. Both the double breasted make, and the fabric choice. I like how you use denim with these commissions. Makes tailoring look less tailored. I believe you have the Brycelands and Rubato denim shirts. And seem to use them similarly? Which do you prefer, and which do you think works best under tailoring? I’ve found some shirts I’ve tried this with either the collars crumple at the back, rather than sit up under the jacket (some RRL for eg) or the points of the collar just dont work at all.
I’m thinking of a black denim shirt under recently commissioned PS brown/black houndstooth sport coat, which I have to say made up looks even better than my expectations (rare!) My new favourite to be perfectly honest. Intend to live in it. Any suggestions for casual trousers that can dress it down too would be gratefully recieved.
Thankyou!
Steven.
Great to hear on the PS houndstooth Steven. I’d try it with black/grey and cream denim to start with, give that a whirl. Then perhaps paler or more muted beige chinos if that’s something you wear.
On the denim shirts, yes those RRL ones are terrible, no structure or height to the collar. Brycelands and Rubato and both better and both great. I’d go with the Rubato if you want something more normal and a little less unusual. Brycelands is heavier and has a little more western detailing going on
understood, and thanks, appreciate the feedback.
(my 2c fwiw, have found a black jumper – like the Drakes black shetland – works well underneath. Good texture, and subtly elevates the jacket. Also good with indigo denim. Thought I’d mention given your current colour preferences!)
fit is nice, simon. fit is nice.
I love DB blazers, DB suitjackets, even DB sports jackets. What I really dislike is the button stance. I don’t like the top two buttons that are spread out widely — I much prefer the military Navy-style jacket where the top buttons are in line with the remaining ones, so that there are two columns of three buttons. Far more elegant than the spread-out top buttons. This is very hard to find in ready-made jackets. Fortunately one can simply move the top two buttons closer and achieve the Navy effect!
I also do not like the lapels buttoning very low, or having the lowest button as the one that closes the front of the jacket. This latter lets the front of the jacket open too wide and often, the tie (if it’s a four-in-one) can slip out of a buttoned jacket — or at least threaten to do so! Very sloppy. This problem cannot be corrected, so I avoid buying such a blazer. The Navy blazer (as in the military one) is so elegant, with the higher closure points for the lapels and the middle and lower buttons closing the jacket.
Just personal preference. I’m sure lots of people will disagree, and that’s quite all right.
Thanks Peter, interesting preferences to add to the discussion.
Personally I think wider top buttons adds to the flattering aspect of a DB, in broadening up towards the shoulders in the same way the lapels do
Indeed, that is what I have always thought, Simon — many men prefer the shoulder-broadening effect that would make the garment look more masculine. It’s rather like having bigger or wider shoulders on the jacket. In my own case, my shoulders are sufficiently broad so that an enhancement would look disproportionate. But to each his own!
Indeed. Thanks Peter
This jacket is fantastic—I really appreciate the idea of using overcoating fabric for a jacket. Are you familiar with Loro Piana’s classic wool-cashmere range, which comes in at around 10–11oz? Would you say that material performs in a similar way to yours, particularly when paired with jeans?
I have had something in that years ago I think. It’s a lot lighter than this, and wouldn’t be like an overcoating, more a regular jacketing. Very nice though, and could be good with jeans
Great jacket, Simon! I’ve been looking forward to this review. I’m curious if you have specific thoughts about this Harrison’s cloth vs. the Fox Coating CT-12 that you used for your SB by Solito and your overcoat by Etore de Cesare. I’m really taken with CT-12 based on a swatch and have been seriously considering commissioning a DB like this Assisi jacket, likely to be worn in much the way you’re wearing yours here. I remember you had reservations about the weight of the Fox cloth; how does the Harrison’s stack up? It certainly looks more pliable in these photos.
Also, your Bryceland’s sawtooth is fading to a lovely shade!
Thanks!
I think both are great, but the Fox might be a safer choice and would be more easily casual. So if you’re in doubt I’d go for that
Such a beautiful piece, if Assisi ever find their way to Berlin, I will copy it.
This is beautiful Simon.
I get the impression their cut is “sharper” than the Anthology? (Peak lapel angles are more rounded on the Anthology etc).
Given this, I wonder if Anthology is better suited for casual jackets (tweeds etc), and Assisi for suits would be a good play — IF you’re into sharper tailoring?
True, there is something in that, particularly with DBs.
I’d say either could work for either, it’s mostly a personal style choice
Hi Simon,
Lovely jacket! Could I ask what the exact width of the lapel is? While measurements vary with cut, I still find having them useful when I want to hone in a similar looking piece.
Sure Phil. The horizontal width to the peak is 5 inches
Love the look. Not easy to find a comfortable style as we age with kids but yours is evolving admirably. I might try chocolate suede ankle boots. Don’t love those low vamp tassled black slip-ons. Nice to see you give the gold lining a rest. The deep purple is rich and an ode to your Etro days. Remind me the article years past where you laid out multiple fabrics that could work as a casual blue blazer? I can’t find it. All I remember is one of the fabrics was “moon beam” (how could one forget that)…
Ha! True.
That article was ‘Navy jacket and jeans’.
Yes a boot would be nice. Good in a dark brown suede
Nice to hear you remember the Etro days!
Personally, I find that articles such as this, where you review bespoke jackets, truly capture the spirit of Permanent Style. In an age where tailoring has somewhat waned in prominence due to the rise of casual attire, it is immensely refreshing to see a renewed enthusiasm for the craft. I greatly appreciate this piece and would love to see more articles of this nature in the future.
Thank you Richard, that’s lovely to hear. And it’s certainly something we will continue to do in the years to come
Goodmorning Simon,
You had so many pieces made bespoke in the past. Do you stil get enthusiastic when ordering a garment?
I can imagine after so many navy jackets, suits and grey trousers it doesn’t feel that special anymore. Maby even more so because you (and most of us) started dressing more casual, it seems a little less relevant to spend that much time and money on clothing like this.. Wondering how you experience this..
Thanks very much.
Good question Jasper.
I do get excited about it, absolutely. Maybe not as much as when you do your first one or two, but you get more excited in some ways because you anticipate all the ways you’re going to wear it and enjoy it – at the start you don’t quite know what that is going to be like
Nice jacket and outfits, Simon.
1. I have a navy cashmere SB. It hadn’t occurred to me to try wearing it with jeans. Would you consider wearing denim if the jacket was SB?
2. Would a Neapolitan make, with spalla calicos shoulders have been too casual for a DB?
1. I would but I think it would be harder. It might depend more on other aspects like that soft shoulder, patch pockets, shirt etc
2 No not at all. I have some like that
*I meant to say spalla camicia but the autocorrect didn’t like it.
Yeah it’s not very sophisticated is it!
Simon, it struck me that you wear your Caraceni nay DB similarly (with black denim at least). Both can be worn with flannels too. Despite the construction being different, isn’t there too much overlap with this Asissi DB? Wouldn’t a DB in a different fabric/colour complement your wardrobe better?
You’re right Noel, there is quite a lot of overlap there. Part of the calculation is always about what readers will find and interesting too though, and I think most will find this easier to wear than the square-shouldered Caraceni
That’s an incredible jacket! I’m looking to have an identical navy double breasted one made but can’t decide between Assisi and Ciardi. In your opinion which of the two has a more casual feel?
Also, I work in an office in the city—do you think this style might come across as too formal or over the top for a professional setting?
Thanks in advance!
Hey Sidah,
I’d say Ciardi is a little more casual, but it’s marginal. The difference is more a style choice in the shoulder width etc.
As to whether it works for the office, that’s a hard thing to comment on when I haven’t been to your office – what are other people wearing? If navy jackets and yours will be the DB, probably fine. If no one’s wearing a navy jacket at all, might be too much.
That’s really interesting—I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but the Ciardi jacket felt a bit smarter to me.
By the way, for the Harrisons cashmere you commissioned, roughly how much extra did it end up costing?
I can check but it was a lot! About £1000 more I think, but that is a very expensive cloth. Most are nowhere near that
Hi Simon,
I’ve made an appointment with Assisi for their London trunk show and am shamelessly planning to commission a navy jacket similiar to yours.
However I don’t have any experience with fabric weights.
I’d love to know more about the fabric used in this Assisi jacket and your Caraceni – both stunning pieces. Info like their weights or even more (such as bunch number, when would it be too hot/cold for it) would be incredibly helpful.
I think it depends what you’re after Daniel – if an all round jacket, I wouldn’t go as heavy or expensive as this one. More like 11-13oz, 15 at the most. The Caraceni was a vintage cloth, this is Harrison’s cashmere over coating weight.
I’d look for smooth wools or wool/cashmere mixes around this weight and if in doubt, go darker navy. I’m sure Assisi will have good suggestions there
For a casual navy double breasted to be worn in hotter weather, what material would you suggest?
Good question. Casual is hard in those jackets, I’d say probably a lightweight linen or a cotton. Hopsack is great but might be too smart
Hi Simon,
I was just wondering what you think of using this navy cloth (https://foxflannel.com/collections/coating/products/fox-coating-midnight-herringbone) from Fox Brothers’ overcoating bunch for a DB like yours. I believe this is the same cloth you used for your Ettore de Cesare overcoat.
Many thanks,
Jack
That could be very nice Jack, but it would feel like a kind of outerwear piece like the one we discussed that Seiji had made. The cloth is quite strong and robust and you’d want it fitted fairly loosely
I love the jacket, but I find it too smart for the rest of the items. I get it that you are experimenting with more casual combos, Simon, but not sure it works here. I would have instead gone with one denim (either shirt or jeans), to counter the smartness a bit, but not both and certainly no T-shirt. Kind of feels like the elegance, top make, and precious fabric are a bit lost on the rest of the outfit. A thicker wool that you mentioned would have mitigated that, but still going too casual and too ‘low dressing’ with a DB feels odd to me. Congrats on the attempts and experimenting though and I do recognise your comment that you would style it differently outside Pitti!
I’m disappointed I missed them this time, but I’ll definitely commission one on their next visit!
Regarding the heavier jacket fabric, I recall you weren’t very enthusiastic about it after wearing the heavy wool navy Solito, which felt bulky and cumbersome. Now that these two fabrics appear to be the same weight, have you changed your mind, or does the cashmere content help alleviate the issue? If so, I’m not particularly fond of cashmere, so do you think a similarly weighted Italian wool—comparable to Fox fabrics—would provide a softer, lighter alternative that addresses those same concerns?
Yes the cashmere doesn’t feel as thick as that tweed did. If you didn’t go for cashmere, I might go a little lighter on the material
Simon, I’m considering a camel hair fabric from the Piacenza overcoating book, https://fabrics.piacenza1733.com/1000-4/05 which weighs 19oz. Do you think this would be a good candidate for a jacket like yours, or would it be too thick and prone to overheating? I have absolutely no idea how camel hair feels, as I’ve never had any garments made from it.
I think it might be good actually, if you’re happy with wearing something in the way I do with this jacket, so basically as akin to outerwear, always taken off when you get inside
I have a similar dark (very) navy cashmere jacket and I am not sure what coloured/type of trouser to wear. Not jeans. I prefer chinos but which colour? Advice needed
For chinos? Brown, green, beige and cream could all work, but you need the colour to be muted and a little washed out
Thanks – I think Olive Green might look good
If not chinos – what other cloth type would you consider?
Most other smarter trouser materials – flannel, worsteds, cords, whipcord/cavalry twill
Hi Simon,
Would you recommend a navy cashmere as a solid option for an autumn/winter season if one already has a navy hopsack jacket for spring/summer. I find navy is the easiest colour to match and versatile in comparison to greys/browns.
In that case yes, I would