WW Chan bespoke tweed jacket: Review

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Wednesday, December 16th 2020
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Sometimes a jacket really impresses you from the off - the try-on, the fitting, everything just beautifully done from the start. 

It doesn't happen very often, and it doesn't necessarily make a difference to the finished garment; but it's a very good, very reassuring sign. 

This jacket, made by WW Chan, was one of those. 

I'll get into the details of the review in a moment, but just to say I'll also spend some time talking about WW Chan and their journey. Because they've really evolved in recent years, in terms of style and structure, in a time when most other tailors haven't. 

I’ve known WW Chan for a long time, ever since I used to travel to Hong Kong with my old job. But it wasn’t until 2018 that I really spent time in the workshop there, with Patrick (Chu), Arnold (Wong) and the team. 

When I did, I was impressed at their attention to detail and their open-mindedness. They were more aware than most tailors of other traditions around the world - and how those were affecting what their customers wanted. 

Still, I was a little unsure about the style that resulted. It seemed a little early stage and I wasn’t sure it was for me. 

That changed when WW Chan joined our pop-up shop on Savile Row, as part of the Bryceland’s residency. I tried on a jacket made for Kenji Cheung (of Bryceland’s), and loved the cut: wider in the shoulder, a little drape in the chest, straight but open in the foreparts. 

It wasn’t a lightbulb moment, perhaps more of a click, a checkbox confidently ticked. I could see how I would wear this style and why I would like it. 

(More evidence for what I’m always banging on about: that all tailors need try-on garments showing their style(s). It means the customer has a clear idea of what they’re buying, and their expectations are much more likely to be met.)

There was a reason I liked that WW Chan jacket so much, I think, and that’s that Kenji and Ethan had been working on it for years. 

Every time he made something for Kenji, Patrick would tweak it based on their feedback: a little more roping in the shoulder, perhaps, or a slightly longer jacket. It’s a testament to the value of having customers with taste - something that has arguably influenced tailoring over the years more than the style of the cutters themselves.

Ethan also points out that Patrick at WW Chan is relatively young compared to other head tailors in Hong Kong - and is actually into his clothes, which isn’t the case with many tailors. 

Still, I did end up changing some aspects of the style during the commissioning process. We removed the roping to achieve a more natural shoulder line, and used a curved or ‘barchetta’ breast-pocket shape, rather than the straight one on Bryceland’s tailoring. 

I’m happy to do that, once the fundamentals of a style I like are in place. What’s much harder is making a dozen such changes, chasing some theoretical image in your head. 

So, Patrick took measurements from me during that pop-up in London. We had a fitting during WW Chan’s regular trunk show here (they normally come twice a year) and then one more this past Autumn, when travel was no longer possible. 

This was my first experience of bespoke done remotely, but I’m not sure it’s that representative, as the initial consultation had been done in person and the first fitting was extremely good: pretty much perfect balance, shape and line. There was little to tweak apart from the style details. 

That meant that when we did the second fitting over Zoom, there were only small tweaks like the length of a sleeve, and adjusting the drape in the back. 

One thing I am definitely learning from remote fittings (shoes and suits) is that the big problem is often quantifying changes. It’s easy to see that the waist needs taking out, or there’s too much space in the arch of a shoe. The hard thing is for the craftsman to see how much that needs to change, or for the customer to communicate it. 

The final jacket fulfilled all my expectations. It was a lovely, clean fit, with natural shoulders and nice 3-roll-2 in the front. In fact, I think my slightly messy collar and handkerchief here belie how neat that make is. 

There is no padding in the shoulder, just body canvas, and the chest has three layers, but light ones: a wool/camel hair layer all the way down the jacket, horsehair to just below the armhole, and then cotton canvas on top of that. 

WW Chan have been on a journey with this structure as much as their cut. Their traditional structure, originating with the ‘Red Gang’ of tailors in Shanghai, came from the British, and so had heavier layers, horsehair down below the first button position, and felt over the top of that. 

In the past decade they’ve replaced the felt with cotton and shortened the length of the last two. They still offer three different levels of structure though, depending on what the customer wants (and the intended formality of the piece). 

The same goes for the shoulder expression too: it can be padded with different degrees of roping; unpadded with a flat, natural sleevehead (mine); or a Neapolitan ‘spalla camicia’ construction. 

I really like that shoulder expression on mine, although I think it’s borderline whether it and the cut mean the jacket can work with jeans and casual chinos. 

The spalla camicia expression might help there, but I also think it’s telling that Ethan and Kenji use the style more for suits than casual jackets, for example. Tailored trousers will be safer, and that’s what I’ll wear it with.

The jacket has a relatively low buttoning point: 18¾ inches from the neck point, which Arnold says is ⅜ of an inch lower than their standard. The pockets have been rounded more, to fit with the natural style overall. The Milanese buttonhole in the lapel is now a standard feature. 

If I was going to see Patrick and the team soon, I might look at whether the sleeve could be wider. I wouldn’t say it was slim, but I do prefer a more generous sleeve these days, and that’s the only tweak I can think of. 

The quality of the finishing is very good - as good as any normal English tailor (the likes of Chittleborough or Michael Browne counting as abnormal). 

And I adore the cloth. It’s a W Bill shetland, 12-13oz; robust but not too hairy, with body but certainly not too heavy. 

It’s the colour that’s the killer though: a mix of black and russety browns, which at scale gives the impression of a dark, rather urban brown tweed. 

The code is 12110 and it is available still, in the Classic Shetland bunch. 

There is one other advantage of WW Chan, and one disadvantage. 

The advantage is that they’re good value, being based in Hong Kong: suits start at HK$18,230 (about £1,800) and jackets at HK$13,000 (£1,300). My jacket was HK$14,830 (£1,480). 

The minus is that even outside of a pandemic, they don’t travel most places frequently. They do visit the US East and West coasts three times a year, but only come to Europe twice a year. So if you’re in London, as a first customer, it’s going to take over a year. Less than that in the States.

Other destinations are Zurich, Stockholm and Paris in Europe, and Sydney, Melbourne and Singapore in Asia. All twice a year. 

In the shots here, I’m wearing a relatively unusual combination, with a slubby striped shirt and scrap-of-indigo handkerchief. But the jacket is versatile enough to go with a range of things, including simple blue oxfords and grey flannels. 

The clothes are:

  • Cotton/linen striped shirt, bespoke from D’Avino
  • Stone-coloured wool trousers, bespoke from Pommella
  • Brown-suede Belgravia loafers, from Edward Green
  • Torn indigo cloth, used as handkerchief

Photography by Alex Natt (@adnatt)

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Pyc

Hi Simon, you mention that WW Chan offers a range of different shoulder & chest style options. Do they nonetheless have a distinctive house style?

Zy

Lovely jacket Simon! This is such a great example of how stark the difference between a cloth on a swatch, or indeed on some website, can be versus seeing it made up. This one for instance looks incredibly bright, for lack of a better word, on the W Bill website, but lovely in person, with a huge amount of depth.

Paul Ayrest

Hi Simon

Nice report. I’ve had many garments made by Chan over the years and agree that they are pretty much the standout HK tailor.

Couple of points on your coat. The left sleeve looks a touch shorter than the right, and the back balance seems short.

Excellent Milanese, which I am used to.

Lastly, why do you mention the watch you’re wearing when it can’t be seen in any of the pictures?

Merry Christmas.

Paul

Noel

Hi Simon,

Lovely jacket. I think it might work with jeans if they’re fairly dark and neat (although as you mentioned the style would mean it’s borderline).

How would you compare WW Chan with the Anthology? How would you decide between them?

Kenny

“So if you’re in London, as a first customer, it’s going to take over a year.” That is far too long for me. How can a customer build up a personal relationship with such infrequent visits? It will take years to build a wardrobe of bespoke tailored garments.

There are several British tailors who offer quality bespoke tailoring at similar prices, e.g. Sims & McDonald in London and others in the regions. It makes more sense to work closely a good local tailor rather than several foreign tailors, especially if you can only order and have fittings at trunk shows.

Kenny

Thanks for the reply. My friend, a city lawyer, recommended Sims & McDonald to me but I have not used them. WW Chan’s prices are very good value and, as you say, it’s a pity they can’t come more often.

How would you compare them to Graham Browne or MacAngus & Wainwright? Would it be possible to get a similar level of quality from them even by paying a bit more?

Damian

Hi Simon.

I am also an existing client of W W Chan and have only positive things to say.

Can I ask you to comment on the reasons why wearing this jacket with jeans would be less appropriate than your Elia Caliendo jacket from 2014. I think they are both fantastic and I am seeking to understand the style reasons that make one more casual than the other.

Many thanks.

Il Pennacchio

Simon,

Your descriptions characterize this WW Chan jacket as a successful commission and your Richard James jacket as less so. Given their similarities, may I ask why?

Il Pennacchio

Would it be fair to say your expectations for the WW Chan jacket were more realistic than those for the Richard James jacket with regard to how casual a garment a tailor with a more formal house style could make?

Evatt

What a beautiful jacket! I’ve been eyeing up that W Bill tweed for a while and these photographs really show it off well. I feel that with the touch of black it links in with last week’s article on cold colour palettes nicely.

A couple of questions:

I’m slightly confused by your remark that’s it’s slightly too smart to work with jeans/chinos. What would you alter to bring down the level of formality?

I’d love a jacket in this tweed but maybe in a year or so. Would you suggest buying a length of the tweed separately now to ensure availability?

Thanks for keeping up this great blog and have a good Christmas.

john henwood

Do you mean, ‘…not set up….’

Edric

Hi Simon,

You write that “the quality of the finishing is very good – as good as any normal English tailor” yet the price is significantly cheaper than the average English tailor usually reviewed on PS. Is this due to WW Chan having less overhead costs, being made in HK? or is there a compromise in the quality/construction? Will you put WW Chan in the same league as the more “affordable” bespoke tailors you’ve previously recommended? or would they be a step above?

I ask because I’m interested in commissioning a suit from them. Your positive review of informs me that I should expect a good suit, but where exactly in the spectrum of good suits would theirs fall? (the same way C&J Hand grade and EG are both “good shoes” yet one is cheaper and the other more expensive for a reason).

I hope my question makes sense.

Thanks!

Edric

I was actually interested in how they compare to The Anthology and to Prologue. Thanks a lot Simon, I got the answer I was looking for here and in your repsonse to another comment.

Martins

Any chance for comparison to your other brown tweed jacket (Caliendo)? How much difference lighter weight gives? Which colour is more useful? I hope once London gets out of tier 3 in summer, this tweed will still be available!
Also would be nice comparison article between anthology, prologue and ww chan!

Nick

Very nice jacket! I quite like the mix of UK/Italian influences, a bit like your Richard James jacket. I think it’s not extreme in any way (i.e. not too structured, openings are not too open etc.), which makes me think it’s a very versatile cut which would be appropriate in an extremely wide range of situations. Lovely cloth as well, how would you compare it to the brown harris tweed you have (or indeed other brown jackets) in terms of usability?

Dr Peter

Very nice jacket, and lovely colours too. I do have a question about the sleeves:

In the second and fifth photographs, the sleeves show quite a bit of creasing, especially for material that is a woollen tweed. My experience is that tweeds generally spring back into shape quickly after being bent or even crumpled. I am wondering if this simply because you had been wearing the jacket for some time, or because of the tightness of the sleeve ( you do mention possibly widening the sleeves a tad).

Matt

Fantastic jacket. WW Chan has made two business suits for me, and they are both great. The second was better than the first as the fit was refined and I listened more to their suggestions. Even if they don’t have the most distinctive house style, they have good sense about what will look best.

Anonymous

Does the black in this jacket make it too formal to be worn with jeans?

How would you describe the difference in use between this shetland brown/black tweed jacket versus something like your Escorial brown jacket? Which one is more versatile?

Peter Hall

That’s a very modern tweed,Simon. I think people will look twice.

I’m convinced that the sharper, more angular tweed is a great improvement.

Donk

I’ve been a WW Chan customer for almost, gulp, 30 years.
Never been disappointed in a product.
If something needed tweaking, they handled it.

I’d say 75% of my bespoke garments are Chan.
The other 25% Anderson & Shepard.
With the position of the £ against the $ now, I’m using Chan even more.
Yes, there is down time, but at the price difference….I can wait.

Simon, the lower button on the jacket looks good on you.
It gives you a “V” that is often lost in your jackets.
Just my dos centavos…

G. Bruce Boyer

Simon, I always think a lower button stance is both much more comfortable and gives a more elegant appearance. So I would be in complete agreement with Arnold Wong.

Paul F

I can only echo your experience Simon. I’ve got now 8 garments from WW Chan and keep ordering. The last 3 were done without fitting at my request and are superb. A couple of tweaks one some of them will be needed but nothing major. Patrick is a superb tailor and delivers constant quality. And the value for money is extraordinary.
I’ve also found that they’re the most flattering cut on me.

John

Hi Simon,
Sorry, as this comment is rather an off topic query. I’ve been looking for a cloth for trousers similar to the vintage Fox navy serge shown here:
https://www.permanentstyle.com/2018/04/filling-the-gaps-six-pairs-of-odd-trousers.html
Unfortunately, nowhere to be found. Thus my question: do you think this Fox Exmoor twill could be a good alternative? See here:
https://www.themerchantfox.co.uk/collections/exmoor-overcoating/products/exmoor-overcoating-grey-twill
Thanks in advance for your help.
John

John

Thank you very much for your advise,
John

LAStyleGuy

Superb look and fit. Well done!

Wouter de Clerck

Beautiful jacket, well done WW Chan. Excellent cloth choice – love the light weight tweed. It gives you a ‘calm and collected’ appearance, if that makes sense.

One style aspect that I would throw up for the discussion is the lapel width. I do not think the lapels are necessarily too wide on this jacket or for your body and I know wider lapels have been a trend for some time (e.g. your recent A-I commission). But would you agree this lapel width is on the cusp of being a bit too much? Put differently, could this or another similarly styled jacket perhaps look a bit more restrained and timeless if the lapels were a tad slimmer?

Damian

Per my comment above and various other responses it seems that there is significant interest in the palette and material, albeit maybe in a slightly softer cut that is conducive to a more casual usage, including with jeans. Do you think that is a matter of making the foreparts less straight, more open, or is there more to it than that? Forgive me if that is a simplistic question! Also, do you think WW Chan could make the softer version?

Matt H

Looks to be very nicely made and I love the cloth. Personally I wouldn’t hesitate to wear this with denim from the darker, smarter end of the spectrum. Also, from what I see, the fit is just as good as with all but your absolute best-fitting bespoke, despite the relative lack of in-person fittings. Indeed, it looks better to me than a number of your commissions that were the result of numerous fittings.

For your final fitting, I take it the jacket was mailed to you and then you sent it back, after the Zoom call. Am I right?

Lastly, I’m not clear on whether the company is set up to offer this sort of remote bespoke intentionally, or if it is just the result of restricted travel during Covid. Is it intended that they will have customers whom they don’t meet or only meet once for measurements?

Thanks

George H

Great article, Simon. I’ve been using WW Chan for bespoke jackets/trousers for the past 8 years and have been very happy with the results. They’re consistently very pleasant to deal with.

Tom V

“I really like that shoulder expression on mine, although I think it’s borderline whether it and the cut mean the jacket can work with jeans and casual chinos. ” Simon, can you elaborate on how shoulder expression relates to whether a coat can be worn with jeans or chinos?

Johannes P

Reviving this thread since this tweed jacket came up in a recent post. I’m just a bit curious about the shoulder fit on this jacket, is the jacket sholder extending past your shoulder bone? And in that case, by how much? (I’m guessing it does extend, but it is hard to tell by the photos in the post)

Anonymous

The quality of communication between tailor and customer is a huge success factor, and Patrick Chu is probably the best communicator among the tailors I have dealt with in 30 years buying bespoke. I ordered a fresco blue coat and later a grey worsted 3-piece suit, both in a 3 roll 2 style. The ordering and first fitting done in HK, the final product shipped to me. Patrick was very clear, firm but tactful in guiding my choices, including steering me away from choices he did not like. He did a particularly good job with the waistcoat, where I favor an older style that sits higher with a narrower opening in the front that parallels the line of the jacket. I am a difficult fit, but the fit was as good as I have experienced even without multiple fittings. My base of comparison is Anderson & Sheppard, a former A&S cutter of high reputation, a New York firm, and a DC firm. In comparison with those makers, the jackets are a more two-dimensional–lacking the gentle roll to the lapels that really like. I generally associate this feature with hand sewing. My impression is the Chan product has little hand sewing. The under-collar at the notch appears to confirms that, though I am no expert and may be wrong. Simon, your jacket does have a nice roll, though the heavier cloth probably plays a big part in that. The amount of handwork, if indeed much less than other makers, would account for a large part of the price difference.

I also ordered shirts with which I am extremely pleased. Chan has a specialist women’s tailor who made my wife a magnificent coat.

I would be interested to know your observations on the amount of hand work and the practical effect this has in the fit and appearance of your orders.

Anonymous

Yes, the melton appears to have been sewn by machine where it meets the notch. The commentary on even the top HK tailors usually states that there is little to no hand work. I value hand work to the extent of functional benefit. One of those benefits, in my understanding, comes from the hand forming/padding of the chest and lapels that creates the 3D quality of a coat in the form of a gentle roll of the collar above the button point and the way the jacket molds to the body over time. Finishing details are nice but less important to me.

My Chan jackets, in a Lesser 11 oz and a Loro Piana open weave Super 130 mold nicely to the chest but the lapels sit quite flat. Heavier fabrics facilitate more roll, which shows in your jacket. I commissioned a suit in the same Lesser fabric from my ex-A&S tailor, which has the greater lapel roll and 3-D quality.

If the Chan work has comparable amounts of handwork in the key areas as the best of Savile Row and elsewhere, it’s a real service to both your readers and to Chan to know this. If you can confirm this is the case, it would reinforce my inclination to place more orders with Chan.

ANM

Simon,

Nice jacket – looks like great fabric/colour.

On an unelated matter…how do you think the quickly rising concerns about “carbon footprints” will play out – even for bespoke?

Will people want to risk potential shaming by flying to Milan, or Naples a couple times to get fitted? Will it be acceptable to express freight a jacket back and forth a few times between far flung cities for some “zoom” fitting sessions?

I know the restaurant trade, the watch trade, and all sorts of related (luxury/discretionary) items are undergoing a range or “re – evaluations” on what they do, how they do it, and will people still want it as we continue to come to terms with or various challenges….

I know you believe in the long term prosperity of the bespoke industry, but how different do you see it 5, 10 years from now?

Karl

Simon:
I bought oatmeal Escorial fabric from Joshua Ellis this past July after reading your article at that time regarding the jacket which you had fabricated by Prologue in Hong Kong. Due to Covid, the fabric still awaits the attention of a tailor. Since Prologue does NOT visit the USA, where I live, I had intended to use the services of Steven Hitchcock, whom you highly recommend, during one of his trips to the USA. My question, in short, would W.W. Chan be a viable alternative to Steven, assuming that W.W. Chan resumes USA tours again? I do valuable your opinion considerably. Thanks, and Merry Christmas.

Anonymous

Looks like Chan is in a similar price range to Whitcombe and Shaftesbury. Leaving asked location, how do they compare in terms of style, fit, and quality of make?

Hugh

Simon, in your artisan of the year post on W&S, you said they are looking at more unstructured versions of their jackets. Are there any updates on that which would be relevant here?

Hugh

How do you think that soft English cut would compare with what WW Chan would make?

Anonymous

Are you sure you the reference number is 12110?

The color here looks completely different:

https://www.harrisons1863.com/product/wb12110/

Robert

@ Anonymous. I just received the W Bill Classic Shetland Bunch book from my tailor. The dark brown tone of WB12110 in the swatch book is true to Simon’s jacket as pictured in the review. I also question whether the swatch you linked to (which appears much lighter) is actually the same. The tones aren’t even close.

R Abbott

How well do they do spalla camicia?

Im in the US and it’s hard to find someone who can do Neapolitan style well. You mentioned they travel regularly to the East Coast?

R Abbott

Great review and nice pictures that show the jacket well. (Only exception is the last one – I don’t get posing in front of a laundromat in tailored clothing, with the distracting bright blue sign and red garment in the background…)

Anonymous

I personally prefer to see shots in these more ‘real life’ settings. Far better than some terrace on Lake Como or in front of a Maserati. Cant think of anything more off putting. Next stop Ridley Road!

Anonymous

The price is very good considering it is bespoke. I am currently using a Naples MTM service that costs around the same. The benefits are that its delivered in around 6 weeks and i can get measured here in the UK within walking distance of home. Could you confirm if the price detailed is inclusive of cloth and if so what the cost of this cloth is?

R Abbott

Based on the photos, the back looks cleaner in this jacket than in some of the ones you’ve gotten at double the price or more. To what extent would you attribute this to the particular fabric used versus quality or style of cut?

R Abbott

So if I understand you correctly, jackets that “allow more movement” tend to look less clean in the back because they have extra fabric in the back?

Given that this particular jacket does have a very clean back, how is it in terms of comfort? Do you feel restricted?

And a follow up question: leaving aside questions of formality / style, would you have a jacket made to be worn at the office cut differently from one cut to be worn for occasions? Eg, if you’re going to wear a particular jacket all day long and be sitting fit long periods of time (as opposed to just wearing it fit a dinner or cocktail party)? Presumably, you would prioritize comfort for an “office jacket” as opposed to having a clean back / sharp appearance? What sort of compromises would you make?

Michael

I had a coat made from them a some years back, I wasn’t impressed. Initially I thought this was because it was from a visiting show. I think you might have gotten the 5 star VIP treatment, which is not what the average person ( who pays the same) gets . Needless to say I’m surprised that this turned out well for you given the zoom fitting!

Oskar

You mentioned details of how the lining is stitched – did you go for a full lining here? Thanks

Kali

Hi Simon,
The jacket does look good although I might have gone for a slightly higher buttoning point. I’m curious about why you chose WW and not A-Man Hing. Was it just convenience with the former traveling and the latter not? Or was there something more? Thanks

CHIN-CHEN LEE

very interesting how much they have changed over the years, I think the first time I heard of WW Chan was 2009? Back then it definitely did not look like this.

Haackk

Hi!

I have an issue with jacket length, as I’m rather tall. I’m wondering if I might have ordered too short jackets for a while…

Do your jackets normally cover the entirety of your seat, or is there an area of the seat, where it curves inwards towards the thighs, that’s not completely covered? I.e. the bottom part of the seat.

Thanks.

Haackk

Thanks.

Does the same go for jeans, however? Are the back pockets completely covered by the jacket?

NYC style

Simon, adding to the questions about quality at this price point, how would you rate WW Chan bespoke shirts versus Whitcomb and Shaftesbury? Thank you!

Anonymous

Would you recommend a two button over a three-roll-two for a shorter person’s casual Neapolitan jacket because a three-roll-two would decrease the lapel length (and presumably one wants a longer lapel for someone short)? Or not necessarily?

Anonymous

During the first bespoke jacket fitting, is it possible to change a 3 roll 2 to a two button jacket, so then the lapel can be elongated? Or does that have to be done at the initial cutting stage?

Does a 3 roll 2 just give the jacket that rolling effect at the buttoning point? Can you have a two button jacket with a roll still?

Is a 3 roll 2 more casual and thus better suited for casual Italian jackets? Which jackets have you had Simon that are strictly two button? Sorry, many questions!

Fastship

I looked up the cloth on W Bill’s website. It looks totally different in your images to the sample they display on their site: https://www.harrisons1863.com/product/wb12110/

From their website I would never have chosen that cloth and yet from your jacket I would. This is a great shortcoming in seeking out cloth on the web.

Robert

Hey Fastship- As I posted elsewhere I received the WB Shetland bunch from my tailor to select fabric for a jacket. The WB12110 tweed in the bunch is true to the pictures in Simon’s review (rich dark brown, great depth, quite lovely). You are correct, the actual fabric seems to share little similarity to the swatch linked above.

Anonymous

…and that’s the issue; how do you get to see all these fabrics to make your choice. At a tailor you are limited to the books they carry so you miss out on so much.

SJ

Nice jacket Simon – my only observation would be the jacket appears to be raked forward – not sure if that’s how it is or it’s just the way you are standing at the time.

I have a couple of Shetland tweeds from the same bunch and do love them very much. The one you chose looks absolutely amazing.

SJ

Thanks Simon

It’s a preference issue – I prefer jackets that are dead straight at the bottom (parallel to the ground if you will). To me the fronts seem dropped a fraction – it’s a look and not necessarily a balance issue and should not cause any creasing. I could not find the earlier comment.

Calvin Man

Hi Simon

I am a client of WW Chan and have several business suits from them, each time looked after by Patrick Chu and Dick. Each one fits very well and they were able to accommodate the style and details I want in all my suits – it is a shame during lockdown I haven’t had the opportunity to wear them. I totally agree that Patrick is into clothes and it was great on each occasion to have him fussing over getting the details and fit absolutely right.

Michael Ryan

That is an excellent jacket. Love the fabric. However that shirt and jacket combination is superb. I’m looking to being able to travel to Hong Kong again next year and perhaps check out a few tailors (I live in Shanghai).

robert

Hey Simon-
The fabric is beautiful. My tailor works with H & S , Dormeuil and Cerruti. Doesn’t even have W Bill swatch books. Will consider W Bill in future but I am not familiar with their fabric. Can you tell me a little about the quality? Have you used their fabric on prior commissions? Not even sure my tailor can source it in the states. Sounds boutique.

Il Pennacchio

Hi Robert,

I’m US-based, and my tailor is making me a jacket from W Bill cloth right now. The North American distributor for W Bill (and other Harrisons’ cloths) is Kemp & Hewitt (https://kempandhewitt.com/); your tailor can source the fabric from them.

Robert

Thanks for sourcing contact for W Bill. Very helpful. Should be able to get a couple of their books next week.

Il Pennacchio

Hi Robert,

Kemp & Hewitt was very helpful about tracking down a length of the recently discontinued W Bill Lamlana, so I’m confident they can get this Shetland tweed for you.

Best of luck!

Robert

IL Pennacchio- Just received the W Bill Shetland bunch from my tailor. Lots of nice choices including fabric chosen by Simon for this commission. Must be ton of interest and not enough books for all the PS groupies. Strict orders to get fabric swatches back to NY by Tuesday. Too funny. Thanks again for your help with sourcing information.

Il Pennacchio

Robert, I’m so glad I could be of help. I hope you enjoy your jacket!

robert

Thanks for your quick response and link. Will be in touch with my tailor today. I have learned a great deal from your posts (Milanese button hole…who knew?… lol ). Can’t fully express how much I enjoy your reviews. Such a great bespoke resource. Happy New Year!

R Abbott

What do you think about leather/suede elbow patches on sports coats? Would that work with this tweed jacket?

TC06754

Super review Simon. I’ve used WW Chan for almost three decades now and will heartily second your recommendations. The workmanship is excellent (the equal, to me, of many of the more celebrated / famous English and Italian tailors I’ve tried), they are unfailingly accommodating and they do have a broader sense of the world outside the particular tradition in which they operate. Plus, the value on offer is very strong.

I also love the fabric you’ve chosen, perhaps because I have a WW Chan jacket made of the same fabric! In my increasingly casual world, it’s become a mainstay of the autumn and winter months. I find that it pairs well with plenty of fabrics and patterns. I also wear it regularly with worn in / darker LVC 1967 505 jeans, and at least to my eye, the combination works well. YMMV, but maybe worth a spin.

Either way, thanks for highlighting Chan – they deserve more publicity than they sometimes seem to garner.

Patrick X.

Hi Simon, super cool jacket and it looks great on you. WW CHAN and ASCOT CHANG, two of the best tailoring houses in HK. What can I say?

Michael

Hi Simon,

Thank you for sharing with us this great piece made by WW Chan HK. I am curious to know what your thoughts are towards Chan having different operations in HK, Shanghai, and Chengdu all under the same WW Chan name.

As far as I know, the brand recognizes all three as parts of the larger Chan family, but as the three shops all use different local factories and employ different cutters, surely the make and cut should be widely inconsistent, right?

Was this a conversation you were able to bring up in your talks with Patrick? It would be interested to know his takes on the different Chan operations across China.

Thanks,
Michael

Neil Tang

Hi Simon,

This is a great look. I particularly like the shirt. May I know the details of the shirting fabric and if it’s still available? Thank you.

Peter

Between this and your H&S Harris / Sherry Tweed in mid brown, which would you say you like more cloth wise? The other has a lot of color throughout but this is more urbane so wondering which you find more wearable, as well as if you can comment on the hand of the cloth given I’ve never touched the WBill Shetland. I’ve trying to decide between the two though then again maybe I need both, ha.

David

Great review Simon. I would like to ask your opinion about this fabric as a coating (for a climate with mild winters, 10 – 16 degrees usually, so 390g is enough on that front). I’m considering this W Bill Shetland Tweeds book in this colour or in the blue with the same weave to make a topcoat. It seems to have good drape and body, and I really like the soft hand and subtle colour variation. But looking at the creasing, I wonder if it’s a bit too soft and / or thin to stand up as a coat? Perhaps it might crease in the arms or back, or show wear more quickly than one would want? I wonder if you’ve had many wears by now, how the fabric is breaking in and based on your judgement, whether it would be a good or a bad choice.

Anonymous

Thank you – I’ll take yoru advice, open a different book with a denser fabric for the coat and come back for a W Bill Shetland sports coat in a couple of years.

Mark

It seems this cloth is no longer available, sadly. Any thoughts on an alternative with a similar effect? The shade of brown is particularly nice.

Daniel Zilli

Hi Simon,
Would you be able to share your thoughts on “bespoke done remotely” in more detail?
I live in Australia and have had one bespoke jacket made by Massimo Pasinato when I was last in Italy. I am considering commissioning another jacket from him but have reservations about this due to a ban on overseas travel from Australia. I was happy with the first jacket (single breasted, notch lapel, 2 buttons, slightly open quarters) but would like to make some changes to the style, namely, 3 roll 2, a more natural shoulder, quarters a little more open (perhaps something more akin to the WW Chan jacket in this review).   
Given the travel ban I would not be able to attend any fittings and all consultation would need to take place by phone or video call (I speak Italian so language will not be an issue). Considering the above I was hoping you could share, your thoughts regarding the process and any potential pitfalls and ultimately, a recommendation if I ought to proceed with the commission or wait until I am able to travel again.   
Many thanks.