Three RTW trousers compared: Drake’s, Anglo-Italian, Anderson & Sheppard

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Readers regularly ask about the best options for quality ready-to-wear trousers, so I thought I’d compare three I own. 

They're three brands that will come readily to mind for those seeking trousers in London: Drake’s, Anderson & Sheppard, and Anglo-Italian. 

My conclusion - spelt out below - is that there is only minor difference between the three in terms of quality. All three are made in Italy, with similar levels of finishing, and source from similar mills. 

In terms of style, there are some bigger differences. The rise and leg line vary slightly, for example. But the biggest difference is the range of styles each brand offers: Anglo-Italian offers one (then MTM), while A&S has 14. 

In fact I’d say the most significant thing is probably how the brands vary in what they are trying to offer. 

Drake’s is slightly more of a fashion collection: the range of materials and colours is smaller and changes more often. 

Anglo-Italian is more static: its trousers cover most classic colours and materials, but the total is still only 15-20 material/colour options, in one fit and one style. 

But Anderson & Sheppard is aiming to do everything. It has 14 styles, across several materials/colours in stock, and hundreds made-to-order. It’s trying to provide a full trouser wardrobe, to everyone. But you pay more. 

 

Drake’s

£315

Rise: 26 cm (length including waistband minus inside leg)

Half knee: 24cm

Half hem: 20cm

These are olive Drake’s chinos, two years old. It’s not a colour they currently offer, but the cut is the same: high rise without being on the natural waist, flat fronted and fairly classic in the leg. 

Drake’s varies the colours it has each season, although usually things like grey flannels, navy chinos and beige/stone chinos are covered. All the styles have belt loops rather than side fasteners. 

Of the three trousers shown, it’s the pair with the lowest rise, and the one that works least well on me from that fit perspective. But of course that’s very personal. 

Although far from being a full fashion brand, it’s also fair to say that Drake’s varies its range more than A&S, and a little more than Anglo-Italian.

Last year they introduced selvedge cords, for instance, and have now added more colours. This season they also introduced a new style, the Games Chino, which has a wider leg, high rise, and a single pleat.

This is therefore not an option for those with specific views on cloth or cut. For that you need to go up to made-to-measure (from £450). 

 

Anglo-Italian

£305

Rise: 29cm

Half knee: 23cm

Half hem: 19cm

These are trousers in Anglo-Italian’s ‘shaved cotton’ material. Made by Solbiati, it has a nice matte texture, in a world where most bespoke cottons are rather shiny.

They are relatively slim, in a mid-rise, with side adjustors and a single pleat. All of Anglo’s trousers are this one model.

But there are 17 different colour/material choices, including flannels, corduroys, high-twist wools and peached cottons. 

This is therefore a collection that I can see a reader building a full range of trousers out of, to support any blazer or blouson in the top half.

And while there is some variation season-to-season, it’s largely small changes in the type of cloth - eg a new in-house flannel rather than the VBC one offered previously. 

The Anglo-Italian waistband has a slightly unusual tab above the fly, but all three trousers vary slightly - with A&S using a metal fastener and the others just buttons, for example. 

Personally, I’ve never noticed any difference between the three designs in terms of performance, and whether you want a button on the end of the extended waistband is more a style point. 

In terms of general make, all three have everything you want in high-end RTW: neat and precise machine sewing, good-quality hardware, and small points of reinforcement. Anglo just has one difference: a touch of prick stitching on the pockets.

 

Anderson & Sheppard

£495

Rise: 27cm

Half knee: 23cm

Half hem: 19cm

These cords are in Anderson & Sheppard’s Model 1, which has a flat front, mid-to-high rise and side adjustors.

It is my favourite of the 14 they offer, which encompasses pleats, real high rise, slim legs, gurkha fronts and even drawstring waists. Most of them can be seen in their guide on the website here.

As well as that variation of styles, the trousers come in sizes from 30 to 50, and a big range of fabrics. There are over 600 pairs in the shop. 

But, even though I bought this pair ready-made (with a small adjustment to waist and finishing the length), the number of options means there are only a few in each fabric/size. Everything else is made to order (at no extra cost). 

That range also comes at a price: Anderson & Sheppard is the most expensive of these three, with cottons £495 and linen £395 (all including VAT).

Effectively the whole offering is priced as MTO, with the aim of providing a service that can quickly provide almost any style of trouser, as the partner to jackets made bespoke around the corner. 

As a result it basically sits somewhere between RTW and made to measure (which both Drake’s and Anglo-Italian offer). It basically assumes the fit works well enough for you without MTM, but wants to offer similar style variation. 

As an aside, I think the fit of these A&S trousers works best on me of the three brands, but that’s largely body shape. I also think the finish inside is slightly nicer than the other two, but really just in terms of colour and material choice, rather than anything more practical. 

In conclusion, all three brands are good options in terms of what readers most often ask about: quality. And they’re all a step above anything on the high street that’s made more cheaply.

Fit is a question of preference and body shape - some will like the slightly higher-rise Anglo-Italian, others will want one of A&S's myriad options.

It may not be so satisfying as a side-by-side review, but the real points of difference here are style and variety. 

Photography: Alex Natt @adnatt

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Shem Teo

Hey Simon I especially like this article given that I have no access and budget for most of your bespoke tailors covered here. Would love to see more pictures with such articles though. I notice there are no front pictures of the drakes and anglo pair!

Richard

Great to hear you view on them – thank you Simon

Tim

Helpful piece, thanks Simon. In your concluding remarks do you mean to say “some will prefer the higher rise Anglo Italian”?

Peter Davies

I am fortunate to have a tailor who makes bespoke trousers for me for £250k plus cloth.

Spending the equivalent for RTW makes no sense to me.

BespokeNYC

Not sure where you live Peter, but would love to know which local tailor is making bespoke trousers for £250. Even here in Madrid, where tailors are relatively cheap, the starting price would be at least €400

(Obviously there are MTM options for much less, but I’m talking true bespoke)

brendan

Chris Georgiou on Kings Cross Road London makes bespoke trousers for this price, with cloth staring at £300.

Anonymous

From the pictures, you’d think it has the lowest rise out of the three…

Anonymous

Best post in months. Ta

G

Maybe i am missing something but why is the Drake’s model considered “high-rise” with a rise of 26 cm while the Anglo-Italian model is considered “mid-rise” with a rise of 29 cm?

Rups

Both are fashion forward sitting on the hips. I don’t blame them for doing that as the target market is your 25-45 affluent corporate type who wants to look smart but still fit in. Its good business. You can’t call them trousers cut in a classic way though. A&S all trousers are the same too apart from I think the brace top ones but as I said in another comment why anyone would pay that money for a RTW trouser I don’t know. Well perhaps if you were given a week to live by your doctor and needed a pair of trousers desperately there and then.

Rups

You are right its been decades now since trousers have been worn on the hips (well as popular dominant look I think it probably started in the 60s then for some bizarre reason the 80s into early 90s have been the only break period since then). We have to distinguish where on the hips though, if the trousers are higher on the hips and going around the arch of them its ok in my opinion as the top of the waistband lies across the belly button, but lower that this creating space on the abdomen just looks displeasing to me if worn as part of a tailored outfit. Thats something that ‘the fluss’ quite rightly pointed out LoL You get the dreaded shortened leg, triangle of shirt and upper jacket body looking disproportionately long.

Drakes & Anglo Italian both are making clothes for the current yuppie … its short, tight and narrow unstructured everything Italian tailoring all made in a casual style which fits the zeitgeist. What it is not is classically cut tailored menswear. Its also fiendishly expensive for what it is but then your paying for relatively small production runs for what are essentially independent boutiques with no economies of scale who are paying for real estate in the most expensive zone in the world. Now the big designer brands are even worse Franken monsters but Ill leave that rant for another day. Must go calm down with a nice cup of tea now in my old age while I doze off dreaming of a bygone age where men actually dressed like men. Bah Humbug)

E L

1. I have a pair of Anglo-Italian trousers. They sit at my waist or maybe a centimeter below. A 30 cm rise is pretty high and tasteful. I haven’t really found much higher in rtw.

2. There are many great reasons to get RTW trousers. First, cost. Sure, a lot of people claim to have mystery bespoke tailors who cost the same, but names are never mentioned and pictures are never given, so I remain skeptical of the quality. In the US, I can get Anglo-Italian trousers for about $350 with shipping, which is a lot, but also less than bespoke. Second, location. Most people in the world do not live in cities with quality bespoke tailors (or bespoke tailors at all for that matter) let alone bespoke tailors who cut clothes in a style I like. Traveling several times to a city with a bespoke tailor is not feasible for most people. Third, taste. Good retailers make tasteful selections. Taste on good rtw generally seems to be better than on bespoke. Many bespoke clothes I see simply aren’t that wearable. Fourth, convenience. Most people don’t want to plan their wardrobes out many months in advance.

Chris

Hi- i have not tried this, but I believe Graham Brown in the city of london (where Simon gets his alterations done) will make bespoke trousers for £250. I have to supplement this by saying, I am not 100% if it’s bespoke or MTM, but they implied bespoke when I spoke with them. Worth a try at any rate.

Chris Ruocco, a tailor in Kentish Town who was well known in the 80s for making suits for Wham and many pop stars is also very reasonably priced, and probably around that level for fully bespoke. He is a real character and you will have to know what you want and be specific with what mills and fabrics you want however. I have never used him, but I have two friends (both well known musicians) who swear by him.

Rups

All three are quite expensive for a RTW trouser, the Anderson and sheppard being way overpriced. Why would anyone pay 500 pounds for a RTW trouser when you can go to someone like W&S as you do and get a bespoke pair made for less? Perhaps the typical rich American customer of Anderson and sheppard bespoke thinks it’s fine especially with strong dollar and vat claimback but otherwise can’t see why that’s a good option for anyone.

Hugh

Some readers may not all have access to W&S, etc

James

I am a big fan of the Anglo Italian trousers. I recommend getting them from the shop rather than ordering online as they do free alterations and the guys in the shop have a great eye for fit. Also I prefer no belt loops as it is much cleaner and I think classier.

I used to buy from Drake’s but recently they seem to have moved towards eccentric prep with their fabric choices and while some of these look great on a model, I’m not confident enough to pull them off.

I haven’t tried A&S’s trousers as I am content with Anglo Italian but I commend their approach. I think I would struggle with the amount of choice available.

Dan

Hi simon, could you tell us, Just to have a fit reference, the different trousers sizes you use in each brand?
Thank you very much.

Dan

I’m sorry for my insistence, but in the picture inside the AS trousers, I see that the size is 34. They may be different sizes depending on the brand?
Forgive my insistence, but because I live ovearseas the only way to access these products is Buying in the web.
Again thank you, greetings from Argentina.

Dan

I find your comment extremely helpful. I am 183 centimeters tall and I regularly wear size 50 for jackets, M for knitwear and 48 for pants.
Thanks.

Jack

Thankyou for a great article, as always!

Just wondering – given they’re RTW trousers would be ok if we know what size you picked in each brand? Also, apart from cuffs, did you need to do any tailoring?

Matthew V

I am a big fan of Anglo Italian tailoring in general, and as a regular wearer of Incotex for a number of years am about to collect my third pair of AI chinos, this time in the slightly heavier twill. Their fit is perfect for me, although I do have them tapered a little.

I have to say it is a sign of how strong London’s menswear offer is today to have three home grown businesses offering trousers (as well as everything else) such as these, and all three stores are a real pleasure to visit.

Chris

Great. I would welcome a similar piece on the MTM options of Anglo and drakes, (and saman Amel, etc)
(I guess that would require a more in-depth set of comparisons)

Adam

Simon, thanks for this. It’s right up the alley of the type of information I’ve been looking for. I can’t justify the expense of bespoke trousers but still want to get good quality ready to wear and this has been very helpful.

JG

Hi Simon-

What size did you do with in the AI? I have rather large upper legs vis a vis my waist and sometimes have to size up and have the waist brought in. I like the AI cloth selection but have avoided buying online because I am between a 48 and 50 in their sizing guide. Thanks.

David

Slightly unrelated, but since it appears in several of the picture above, that’s a beautiful watch strap and buckle.

Michael

I think this might have just become one of my favourite articles. Really interesting discussion/commentary. I especially like the point around the huge range at A&S making it more akin to a comparison with the MTO options offered by the other two companies, which I hadn’t considered that way previously.

Thank you.

Nicolas Stromback

Simon, as I have progressed in trying different makes and models of trousers I have found that the placement of the side adjuster dramatically changes how the waistband of the trouser performs. Whereas a high placed side adjuster mostly keeps the waistband in place and lower (on the seam) placed one doesnt really hold the waist together and the band sometimes “flips” over, which can be annoying. Have you noticed this yourself and is there any good fix for it?

Nicolas Strömbäck

Interesting. I was quite surprised myself as I cant find a reason why this happens. First I figured it may be the cloth, but I have summer wool trousers where the cloth is very lightweight and should be more prone to such behaviour, but no. With the adjuster up there they stay put. Judging from photos I have seen on your pants I’d say tighten mine about the same. I shall dive into this a bit more with the fellas and see what we find out.

Jon

Hi Simon, great article and a useful summary of some themes that seem to always appear in relation to trousers. Question: given W&S cotton trousers are c. £560 for bespoke (granted, their India service which may bother some people), why wouldn’t someone pony up the extra £65 vs the A&S cotton option? Is it simply the convenience of not wanting to wait 12 weeks? It seems a minor outlay to get what I imagine is the better fit.

Anonymous

Hello

A couple of folk have commented on the price vs local bespoke tailors who will make a good trouser for less, but you haven’t commented on these. Equally, why do you go for RTW if one of the pairs needed what sounds like pretty extensive alteration?

Jon

Thank you Simon for the extra info, it’s very useful. I guess my question was really targeted towards the A&S cord offering vs W&S cord offering – and location of manufacture aside, which I don’t believe should *really* come into the equation vis a vis quality given your past comments and my own first hand experience with both offerings. Appreciate though some might want to support local UK manufacturing

Anonymous

Simon
With society going more and more casual, do you see wool trousers slowly vanishing and being replaced by casual chinos? I hope not, but the more I look around, it looks like tailored wool trousers are slowly but surely disappearing.

Anonymous

Interesting response and I have to say, reassuring.

Burt

The waistband seems to collapse on your pair of A&S trousers, no? I own just one pair of trousers from the A&S haberdashery and it has the same weak waistband. That’s not an issue when you’re wearing a belt, but I find it slightly annoying when you aren’t or when you’re wearing braces instead. Wish they could reinforce it a little more.

Anonymous

Hi Simon,

Thank you. This is a really useful article as someone just starting to build my wardrobe. Would you be able to comment briefly on how Stoffa’s MTM offering sits in relation to these?

Anonymous

I am very happy with the trousers I’ve had made by Stoffa (following your review). Without your experience it is difficult to not to simply assume more expensive is better (given Stoffa’s MTM is actually very competitively priced). I agree there is some limitation associated with fabric choices and trunk shows but overall at their price point and quality I will continue to build their first before looking elsewhere. Thanks for your response.

RDH

I had the same problem with with two pairs of A&S trousers. I took them back in and they were altered, reinforcing the waist band I believe, and are now great. It was annoying to be sure, but the return was handled with no fuss, which was much appreciated.

I have the same problem with my Blackhorse Lane jeans, which I think is exacerbated by the positioning of the belt loops and, therefore, where a belt sits when I am wearing one

REUVEN L LAX

I’ve had similar issues with my A&S trousers in the past .- it started to fold in half – and ended up having my tailor open up and reinforce the waistband. They are fine now, though most of my trousers now are bespoke and haven’t had this issue.

J

Hi Simon,

I have a couple of pairs of Style #1 trousers from the A&S haberdashery and I like them very much. However, they have increased in price to the extent that it does not make sense to use them as a RTW option as the bespoke offering from some of various tailors that you have used and mentioned in your website are not far off that price point. That is a real shame in my opinion.

RT

I’d certainly endorse the comments on the comparative value of bespoke trousers by W&S. Having had several pairs to date I’ve just ordered another pair, having also tried the A&S RTW ones. Definitely worth the extra money (although I did like the A&S ones).
However, I think it’s also worth highlighting the value of Stoffa’s MtM trousers too. With prices ranging from $275 to $375 and the ability to have them made to measure I think they represent unbeatable value.

Shane

Fantastic overview Simon, thanks so much. I was wondering have you any experience of or thoughts on Natalino trousers ? Am seeing them around a bit. Similar styling but quite a bit cheaper. I’m assuming they are saving on fabric and make.

Chris

Yes I mean a comparison of not just trousers but the full MTM tailoring options between the likes of Anglo I, Saman, Drakes, P Johnson etc. In the spirit of this piece really – aimed at maybe a younger buyer who can’t countenance bespoke yet. I know you’ve done full Saman and P Johnson reviews before but I find the broad scope of a piece like this RTW trousers one really useful.

David

I find the rise measurements surprising. To me, the AS pants look like they have the highest rise, and AI the lowest. Simon, how do you explain that? I’m particularly interested in this because I like the look of a higher rise in the front, but always find the back looks a little weird when the waistband sits 4 inches above the swell of the buttocks. Here, the AI look perfect to me while the AS ones less so.

Anonymous

It makes more sense now that I’ve read your comment below about how the rise is measured. When trying on a pair of pants, do you have any point of reference such as how many inches from the navel does it fit and so on? Do you have any that actually go higher than the navel?

Noel

Hi Simon,

I’m slightly confused about the rise measurements. Is it the back or front rise? Or a different type all together?

Ricky

Would like to see a review of Natalino trousers at some point. Honestly the best RTW silhouette I’ve tried, single pleat side adjusters and high rise. Finishing won’t be on par with A&S, AI or Drakes but the fit is more in-line with MTM/ Bespoke for myself (I have a pair of drakes Chino in navy).

The trousers always sell out super quick, and at around £120 for cotton and £165 for flannel the value is hard to beat!

Thomas

Simon, do you ever buy casual trousers with checks, patterns etc. You see some beautiful fabrics in the autumn in particular but like myself you appear to mostly stick with solid colours. Appreciate your thoughts.

Lucas

What’s the color on the A&S cords in the article? It can’t find it on their site. Its’ beautiful!

Anonymous

Personally, I just purchase cords,chinos and moleskin trousers from Cordings and then just modernise the cut by having them altered to A&S style 1 by a good tailor.Works out much cheaper.

Ian A

Yes i use Cording’s for my trousers and then get them adjusted. Some of them I believe are a little loud in colour and has been said around this site previously that the legs of a man are not the best place for him to draw attention to. For a little more I’d go to Graham Browne or MTM although that leaves me with the responsibility of being the designer.

JB

Surprised to read A&S trousers are made in Italy, I thought they were made by the local trousers makers at A&S?

Anon

Hi Simon

I had a pair of bespoke trousers made but unfortunately have lost a few kgs and that has made the trousers to be a bit big. Would you recommend the trousers to be altered by a local tailor or be sent back to the bespoke trouser maker

Anonymous

Simon

What are the cords like at keeping a crease?

Anonymous

Any experience with moleskin? Does moleskin hold a crease reasonably well? Or is pretty much all cotton poor at holding a crease?

tom

Simon, thank you for your article. Always value added. The cord is wonderful. May i ask if it’s a 10 wale or less or more? What’s your view on which wale to choose for suit/trousers? thanks

Anonymous

Forgive me Simon but there is an awful lot of ‘ass’ in these shots – only one full length shot from the front – which is where most men ajudge from. I realise, for you, the rear fit is an issue but I’m interested in the silhouette as well as the fit and none but the first image informs on this. Rups is half right re. fashion. The cuts displayed are the end-point of fashion’s skinny/slim phase and will soon be out of date. A cursory glance at the menswear silhouettes displayed on Vogue’s Paris & Milan 2018:2019 menswear catwalks point to the full, relaxed, high waisted cuts as the next point in fashion evolution.

Jason

Excellent article.
I always thought head to head comparisons of ‘similar’ garments would prove popular amongst discerning flaneurs.
In this instance, I go for A&S because their choice of styles and cloths is unbeatable – as is their service.
I have no experience of Anglo-Italians service but find Drake’s sadly lacking.

AM

Hi Simon,

Nice post!

Do you have a preference on flat fronted vs pleats, belt loops vs side adjusters, turn ups etc. ? And what drives your decision?

Anonymous

Out of interest why do you use cm measurements when the UK/USA (the main English language markets) use inches for apparel?

Thomas

Are you still an Incotex fan for chinos?

Dan

I have noticed that many comments debate the price of rtw garments in relation to those made by tailors. Personally, I think the both options (in their most prominent expressions) will have more or less value depending on “how regular” the size of the person is. I do not agree to assume that the choice of tailor is always the most recommended, I see there more snobism than usefulness. However, if any aspect of the body requires it, a tailor will always be the best choice. By the other side, if the person’s body fits the “market” sizes, the rtw options in relation to design, variety and style will usually be superior. Obviously the fit will never be the same, but it’s a matter of priorities. I say this being a big fan of everything related to the world of male luxury, which does not imply understanding that it does not always turn out to be the most useful artisanal options. Even in the blog Simon mentioned several times how frustrating some artisanal experiences can be.

Chris

Would it be fair to say that Drakes, of the three makers featured, seem to produce a more scruffy trousers, prone to wrinkling etc. Than the others?
That is not meant as a criticism of course – I understand their style is supposed to be a little less polished, but it’s a relevant point perhaps for people such as me who try and use clothes to help subvert their inherent and unwelcome naturally scruffy qualities!

Chris

Thanks Simon.
Perhaps “louche” was the word I was really looking for.

Richard

Hi Simon,

Great piece!

Do you have any experience or opinion on SUITSUPPLY – all their trouser collection seem to be in wools and flannels from Italian mills such as E. Thomas and come in a choice of high and low waist rise. Overall they look pretty good.

Many thanks

Richard

Michael

I purchased a suit from Suit Supply when I needed something in a hurry. It was decent quality in respect of the price but it was not and is not a comparable product to bespoke or better quality RTW suits. Of course, it was also much, much cheaper.

I do not expect to shop there again but then I’m not planning to shop anywhere at that price point at the moment.

I will continue to list it as an option for colleagues who are looking at products in that budget range (in practice, most of my colleagues) and think it’s a solid product for the price – it’s just that there’s a limit to what can be provided at that price point. It’s also a little bit fashion forward for me but then that’s probably just me getting older!

Chris

Apologies for adding a political comment here, that could be divisive. But I also happen to find suit supply’s branding truly repellant. The half naked women in the dressing room, supposed to inflate our egos as we purchase a suit, is a remnant of menswear past I for one could do without.
I believe Gauthier Borasello, in a audio piece Simon posted, very correctly suggested that the most elegant thing about a men is his manners. Suit supply could learn a thing or two from that inspired insight.

Anonymous

Which 5 odd trousers out of your whole pant wardrobe do you wear most Simon? What are their colors?

Grant

Hey Simon,

Do you by any chance know what cloth A&S uses for the flannels in Model 1 on their website? I’ve emailed them but haven’t heard back.

Thanks for the help as always,
Grant

Hans

I have had and tried both Incotex and Rota. Both are good (Incotex the old regular fit, not slim or skin tight). Rota is by far the best RTW I have had. I have bought the from different suppliers e g Anderson&Sheppard, a store in Rome and one in Milano (can’t remember the names). Most of my Rotas and the (only) online supplier I buy from now is M Jondral, Hannover, Germany. By far the best make, style and options. Best service and also information about the different fabrics (Brisbane Moss, Loro Piana, Holland&Sherry, VBC) on the webb. I mostly buy Rota Sartoriale, which I swear by. I’m an online customer and have never been to Hannover, but hope to be able to visit the shop in the future. To me M Jondrals capsule collection and shop is the best and that is not only about the trousers from Rota.

EZEQUIEL

hi hans, would you please tell me how is the rise on those rota trousers (is it as high as drake’s?) and what is the leg opening measure? thanks

Rik

Hi Simon – how do you look after these trousers? Wash and iron at home or dry clean? Thank you

Rik

Do you dry clean all your cotton chinos?

Rik

Thank you!

Bjorn

Hi Simon, I have a similar question. I just purchased a Rota Cotton trouser and had never expected to Dry Clean it, though the washing advice clearly says „Dry Cleaning“. The reason is not the outer fabric, it‘s the inner construction like linings and pockets? Also at low temperature washing? Thanks in advance.

Bjorn

Thank you Simon.

Hans

Hi Ezequiel, the measurements are not the same for all models. Some of my trousers are midrise and some have a slightly higher rise, You can find more information about the measurements in the Jondral sizeguide (on the web page). Best of luck👍

EZEQUIEL

really appreciated, hans

shem

hi simon what’s your advise with regards sizing for drake’s trousers? Did you take your usual size or buy one size bigger and take in the waist?

EZEQUIEL

hi simon, how do you find olive trousers like drakes (just the colour not the model) combine with navy, dark grey (herringbone/POW/houndstooth) and brown (like your caliendos) jackets?

EZEQUIEL

great. thank you!

Nick

Dear Simon,

I would be very interested to hear how you compare the likes of Incotex, to the above offerings from Drake’s etc. I appreciate many of their offerings are more casual, i.e chinos rather than very smart pleated-trousers. Do you think they are of a similar quality to the brands mentioned above?

Kind regards
Nick

Michael

Hi Simon,
Can the trousers from Anglo Italian be worn more casually? I am thinking at a bomber jacket,safari jacket, Oxford shirt,polo shirt maybe even a t shirt with a suede chukka or a wingtip leather derby.

Michael

So all of the above could work except the t shirt,am I correct?
In your weekend wardrobe you recommend a pair of chinos but I can’t find something to work casually.
Anglo Italian has this pair of cotton drill trousers. What do you think about them?

https://angloitalian.com/products/trouser-cotton-drill-khaki

Michael

Not necessarily for t shirt, i know realise that these kind of trousers can’t be worn with a t shirt. The thing is that I am new at this and don’t have enough experience and information to start building a wardrobe. So I want a pair of cotton trousers that could work casually,for eg ,going to a restaurant, in a mall, visiting someone. For the moment I have a moleskin bomber jacket and private white peacoat,some oxford shirts and knitwear from Trunk but no trousers.
What do you suggest? Anglo Italian in cotton drill could work or should i try a more casual chino?
Thank you!

John

Michael, A&Is garment washed cotton trousers are further down the formality scale and sound more suitable than the drill cotton for what you describe. I upgraded my incotex with them and am happy.

https://angloitalian.com/products/garment-washed-cotton-trouser-stone

Michael

But are they good for fall/winter? The cotton drill has 400grams while the washed cotton has 290 grams. So the difference lies not only in weight but also in formality?

John

For me 290gms is ok for all year wear, though the coldest climate I experience is London. However 400gms is surely too heavy for summer, so it really depends what your needs are.

I like their garment washed trousers because they can be dressed up/down, while the drill cotton is more formal.

Good luck!

Stefan

Hi Simon,
I understand that cream colour should be worn when it’s sunny outside rather than temperature. So between these 2 colours I think that beige is lighter and in my country it’s not so much sun during winter. What about the khaki colour from the pants,is suitable for navy outerwear?
https://rota-pantaloni.com/collections/fall-winter/products/khaki-pair-of-regular-fit-winter-cotton-stretch-trousers?variant=32820388593739

https://rota-pantaloni.com/collections/fall-winter/products/beige-herringbone-cotton-sport-trousers?variant=32959026987083

Thank you!

Michael

Hi Simon,
I recently purchased a pair of trousers from Rota but in the pictures from their website the colour was a little bit lighter. Do you think that this colour (khaki as they name it though I think it’s a bit of olive in it,khaki green perhaps) can work with navy? Please check the link if you may. Thank you!

http://imgur.com/a/reH0PZQ

Michael

Hi Simon,
I forgot to ask a question. Are these trousers from Rota suited to be worn casually (They are from cotton with a brushed effect) with peacoat maybe a bomber jacket with knitwear? Sorry for the bad picture. These are my first pair of trousers,I am slowly building a wardrobe but the formality of clothes for my activities is for a casual wardrobe(sometimes smart casual). I wanted a lighter colour for trousers like cream but they are not suited for the weather in my country during winter. What colour would you suggest as a next pair or fabric? I was thinking at some light grey flannel but I found only with one pleat,no flat front. Between one pleat and flat front is there a difference in formality? Regarding corduroy I was thinking at some green ones but again only with one pleat. I want to wear them casually. What recommendation do you have ? I would much appreciate it! Thank you for your help!

http://imgur.com/gallery/iiJp3J3

Michael

Hi Simon,
Thank you for your help. After reading the Formality scale and How to style trainers articles now I am a bit confused. In the Formality scale you mentioned that the white trainers could be worn with flannel trousers and in How to style trainers article you showed different levels of formality of trousers worn with sneakers mentioning that a cotton trouser is more suited with trainers even a wool one( not worsted wool). These trousers are smarter than a rugged chino (The Armoury) but still they can be worn with trainers. Why aren’t the trousers from Rota which I mentioned above suited for trainers even though they are from a brushed cotton? This is exactly the type of trouser that I am looking for to wear ,for eg with some trainers but at the same time to be worn a little smarter( with welted shoes).

Oliver Kenny

Bought a pair of Anderson & Sheppard trousers in the sale Unimpressed by the quality and the fit was nothing special. Sent a picture of the trouser of to Spencer trousers up North and they are making me something similar for £140. That’s less than half the price! Plus I get the exact material I want.