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Finding the right material for odd trousers - those worn with sports jackets rather than suits - is not easy. 

The kind of smooth, worsted cloths you're used to wearing as part of a suit are too sleek and formal. Many cottons, particularly garment-washed chinos, are too casual. 

The most popular alternative is flannel. In grey, it is a menswear classic and very versatile in its formality. 

But it has disadvantages - specifically, that it is too thick to wear for much of the year and is terrible at holding its shape: it bags quickly and is awful when wet. 

I have a lot of grey flannels - in fact, five pairs in various shades and weights. (And in the warmer months I wear a lot of high-twist trousers like Fresco and Crispaire.) 

But I am increasingly turning towards cavalry twill, as a very versatile and functional alternative. 

And I would certainly put it above the various other wool twills, like gabardine, serge, covert etc. 

Among wool trousers, twills (those with a diagonal stripe running across the material) are particularly good for holding their shape and draping well.  

But usually the first twill a tailor will offer is a gabardine. 

This is the more traditional choice for an odd trouser, being more formal. But its formality and sheen make it less useful in a modern environment, when you might want to wear it with everything from a button-down popeline to a cowboy shirt (as pictured here). 

Cavalry twill is less shiny, largely because of the double-twill weave that defines it - if you look closely at the surface, you can see two lines running down in parallel, rather than the single twill found on gabardine, serge, covert etc.

This also makes it more robust. (It was originally created for military riding trousers and breeches, hence the name.)

Part of cavalry twill's strength and durability is also reflected in the angle of that diagonal line. 

To make a twill line run more steeply - more vertically down the cloth, rather than across it - you put more warp ends in relative to the weft. Of the wool twills, serge usually has an equal balance of warp and weft, gabardine has more warp ends, and cavalry twill has the most of all.

(They do all vary, however, and are usually best defined by other things - such as the tightness of weave with gabardine and the double twill with cavalry twill. More detail on weaves in general can be found on our 'Weaves and Designs' post, part of the Guide to Cloth.)

The trousers, by the way, were made by Richard James as part of a three-part commission last year that also included a mid-brown cashmere jacket (yet to be covered) and Harris tweed waistcoat (which I covered here).

Both the fit and the make of the trousers was superb. Beautiful straight line, snug fit at the waist, and lovely pick stitching - around the fly, for instance. 

Savile Row tailors are not highlighted enough for the quality of their trouser work, largely because they will often be more expensive than Neapolitan specialists like Cerrato or Ambrosi.

But the work is just as good, just often focused more on things like a precisely fitted lining to the band, rather than dozens of tack stitches. 

The cloth of the trousers is the Holland & Sherry cav twill I highlighted on my favourite cloths from them, last year. 

The jacket is my Escorial-cloth piece from Solito, seen in review here

The shoes are my old Edward Green Oundles

The cowboy denim shirt is from Niche via No Man Walks Alone.

And the red-donegal beanie - which provides a nice pop of colour - is from Cappellificio Biellese (or CB1935 for short). 

Photography: Jamie Ferguson @jkf_man

 

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Anonymous

Speaking of no man walks alone – just ordered some campshita brown herringbone trousers on sale. Received a nice handwritten note and lovely packaging. Great balance between formal and trendy rtw

Scott

No Man Walks Alone is fantastic and they carry some really high quality companies and the service is excellent.

Anonymous

Would you really advocate a trouser made from covert cloth? At around 550 gr., they would be very heavy indeed.

David Minella

Great piece, Simon. When I look in my closet, it’s grey worsted, grey worsted, grey(er) worsted, grey flannel, grey flannel, blue chino, tan chino. Now I’ll be on the hunt for some twill.

Rabster

On the subject of trousers what are the colours that should form a staple in any gentlemans wardrobe ?
Navy , beige, green …..?

StuartR

Great article – Cavalry Twill is definitely due a renaissance.

One thing; I have a CT waistcoat that is (quite literally) over 100 years old. It wears well under a tweed jacket but I wonder how you think CT would work as a jacket fabric?

Best

Stuart

StuartR

Thanks. Look foward to that piece. How does whipcord differ from CT? Is it a matter of angle of the weave?

John

Hi,
In addition, whipcord is a bit shiny.

Karsten

Hello Simon,

from my own experiences I can only confirm what you write about cavalry twill. I wasn’t familiar with this material but ordered a pair from New and Lingwood in sand. When I saw the material on photos I was a bit concerned it could look kind of synthetic. But then, I was really surprised about how versatile and comfortable to wear they are. Even when worn frequently, they hold their shape pretty well. Due to this and the plain front cut it’s easy to combine them with sports coats or even short length leather jackets. That said, they become one of my most worn trousers during the last time (besides grey flannels, of course).

Karsten

Rik

Beautiful trousers, Simon. I wonder if you could give us some tips on how you care and clean them. My trousers never seem to be the same after the first wash!

Rik

Thanks Simon. I misunderstood and thought these trousers were cotton

Leonard B.

Hi Simon,

Could you recommend any other makers that offer good cavalry twill trousers, rtw or other?

Anonymous

Cordings are considered the home of the covert coat, and they do make a good cavalry twill trouser.

Gonzague

Interesting. I like satinated cotton (smooth and a little bit shiny but not formal) for summer trousers and jackets but I am struggling to identify fabric merchants offering such them for tailors. I believe most are made in Italy. Do you know of any by any chance?

Brian G

I purchased a pair of rtw, CT trousers from Paul Stuart last fall, Nov. ’16. Trousers are a dark olive. PS also sold them in navy which were very nice. I chose the olive because I though it more versatile and find it so. I do also think that the navy would be versatile as well. I’m surprised, Simon, that I do not see olive listed in your cited posted on Trouser Colors?

Martin

I just looked at PS´s website (nice initials by the way). They offer cotton cavalry twill trousers. You only mention the wool version, so I wonder what you think of the cotton one.
Another reader recommends New & Lingwood. Are you familiar with their trousers?

Anonymous

Hi Simon

I believe you class cavalry twill as quite a formal cloth. What’s the reasoning behind this? To me, it appears more casual as the twill pattern is not smooth.

Anonymous

Thanks for clarifying. Do you think, if the cut was slim, they could be worn without a sports jacket? Say, a field jacket or something similar.

Anonymous

Any summer woollen fabrics you can recommend that would work in a casual outfit? Much like flannel in winter.

Md

Would you recommend turnups for these?

Nick Inkster

There is no rule, and therefore no rule to be broken, but I think PTUs on a cavalry twill trouser is wrong. Given the heritage of the cloth, the correct finish is a military hem.

Anonymous

Hi Simon,

Do you have details of the grey cavalry twill cloth? They don’t look to have a completely uniform colour. Is this correct? Almost like a marled effect.

John

Hi Simon,
Eventually, we have the first post on CT. A few lines on weight might have been helpful.
John

Anonymous

Amazing trousers, as always!

Just out of curiosity, do you think a pair of worsted trousers of a versatile colour (like charcoal/mid grey) can work as odd trouser? There are many examples where people do this, but the result often varies very much. Some look very nice but some not so nice. Are there any times that you would try that? Also, what do you thinks of the idea of combining worsted odd jackets and trousers? Perhaps in a little more formal setting than normal sports jackets + trousers in less formal fabrics like flannel?

Thorn

Cavalry twill trousers. That brings back memories. The trouser of choice for members of the Young Conservatives in the 1960s. Preferably teamed with a tattersall shirt, a cravat, string back gloves and a Sunbeam Alpine.

Anonymous

If only one could purchase the same quality clothes today at an affordable price.

Nik Ismail almurtadza

Simon
What’s the weight of your trousers you are wearing in the pic and cavalry twill does come in various other colors,i guess?

Burt

Another characteristic is that cavalry twill wears cool for its weight. Apart from that it drapes and holds its crease well. Dugdale produce a very good, sturdy one .

Hugh

As nice as the trousers are, you’ve said hardly anything about the most striking part of the outfit- the cowboy shirt! I’d love to know your reasoning behind choosing this over a regular denim shirt- i have to say it’s not something I’d ever wear in an outfit like this (or at all of Im honest), but I’ve also never considered wearing one with tailored clothes

Karnan

Hi Simon
Regarding the cowboy shirt, are you wearing that off the peg or did you get it altered for fit?
Overall, really nice combo.

T.

Another great outfit here, Simon… So this is 13oz from the Dakota bunch, would you recommend this for Summer or is it too heavy and more suitable for Spring? There are some nice 14 to 14.5 oz also in that H&S Dakota bunch — but wondering if they’re more for the winter…

Paul

Hi Simon
Following a meeting at your shop I ordered a bespoke pair of trousers from one of the tailors there. We had quite a discussion about pleats which seem very much in vogue in Naples. I notice you opted for a flat front here. Can I ask why. Also you say the cloth holds its shape well does this include its crease. I wonder that more people don’t opt for perhaps treated cloth that keeps its crease /shape better
Thanks
Paul

Anonymous

Pleats on cavalry twill? Good grief.

Fernando

Hi Simon,
First of all thank you for your invaluable work here, it means a lot.
I wanted to know what’s your take on trouser linings as I’m going to have one made and wanted to know your opinion. Do you prefer half, full or no lining at all?. I’m including casual pants to (except jeans of course).
Thankfully,
Fernando.

Anonymous

Carrying your hat around all day must be annoying. I recommend wearing it on your head. Failing that, can I suggest a rucksack

Tim Fleming

Yes – cavalry twill is very fitting in the modern world where suits are less common. I have some trousers coming soon in moleskin – another of the cotton fabrics that is very comfortable for casual wear. Given it’s work-wear history and somewhat floppy shape, it’s further down the casual spectrum, I think, than cavalry twill, but can still look nice with a casual jacket – maybe unstructured rather than structured. Would you agree?

Tim Fleming

Hello Simon,
I like the way the fly on these trousers is created to be flat and even and the lapp sits nice and tight against the waistband, with no corners popping up. I’m curious how this fly and lapped waistband are created? Such as – is it a zipper fly or button fly, 2 side-by-side hook and bar closures appear to hold the end of the lapp in place but I can’t be sure, and so on. I know this is a little detailed but if you could explain each attachment piece of the fly, that would be great for my own trousers to match this similar look.

Thanks for the help and a quick side note here – I voiced some concerns before about where things were headed for you and PM with the changes in the recent past, such as the revamped website, and your assurance that the important elements I’ve enjoyed since the beginning would remain unchanged. It’s nice to see those assurances are holding strong. Nice going!

gary byrne

anyone wanting something really exciting in cavalry twill should check out the red

Michael

Simon,

Is there a prominent difference between cavalry twill and whipcord?

Anonymous

Do you still feel that whipcord is more casual than cavalry twill? If so, any particular reason?

Michael

Simon, your casual trousers always look spot on. If you don’t mind, could you offer up some advice in terms of rise and hem measurements? At 5’7 I’m finding it difficult to find options that I find both comfortable and aesthetically pleasing. My natural waist is above my navel and I have a rather long torso.

Anonymous

Hi Simon, I notice you say you wear your pants at the waist but what height is this? I ask because my waist is about 3 inches above my belly button but you don´t seem to wear such high waisted trousers. Do you wear them at your belly button or above it?
Thanks in advance

Hans

Hi Simon,
Thanks for this article. I will try cavalry twill for trouser next time.
I wound like to ask if the cavalry twill trouser is suitable for hot climate?
And which kind of flannel is better for trousers? worsted or woolen?

Palo

I have ordered pair of trousers in the same cavalry twill as in this post so I’m curious how they will turn out. However when I went through H&S Dakota bunch I found very little choices for cavalry twill.

Can you recommend some other mills and bunches for cavalry twill with more colors? Colors like navy, cream, light fawn, chocolate and so on?

Daniel

Simon,
You mention that CT trousers are relatively durable. Do you have any experience in cycling in them? What I mean here are very short (2-3 km) commutes on a city bike. I would not do it in flannels but for CT it may be possible. What do you think?

Anonymous

Simon, you use so many trouser makers it’s difficult not to lose track! If you had to use only one, which one would you keep out of Pomella, Cerrato, Whitcomb & Shaftesbury, Richard James…?

Anonymous

Okay, two!
Finishing aside, any difference in style?

Anonymous

I was particularly interested in the differences between English and Italian, especially W&S.

Heiko

Is this Cavalry cloth thick enough for autum and winter trousers? I am still looking for a cold season alternative to chinos.

Heiko

Sounds tempting. Where would I get this exclusive rewove cav twill?

mgastolze

Hello Simon, a question (or two): What do you mean when you say Flannel ‘bags’? And what do you mean it doesn’t work in the wet? You mean it holds onto water too long?

Also, I have two pairs of trousers in a cavalry twill, but heavy cotton, not wool. Do you think they can achieve the same level of formality?

Bruno Vendittelli

When you say “…but is unlikely to be as much as wool.” Do you mean in price or that Cotton CT is not as formal as Wool CT?

Martijn Stolze

Thanks for responding! Follow up: how do I treat the bagging of flannel trousers? Hang them in the shower with me, iron under a towel, just fold them well?

Jackson Hart

Greetings, Simon.

I don’t quite know where to put this, but here we go…
I, and I believe many of your other readers, would love to see a segment by you called, “What I am Wearing Today”. The title is self-explanatory. It can be as random as you have time for and shouldn’t take much writing work as you would merely just give us some short description of the items you’re wearing on that particular day and maybe where you are headed and why you picked what you are wearing; quick and dirty bullet points – with pictures/ or a picture even- of course. Think of it as a more detailed sequel to the piece you did a while ago telling us how you decide what to wear every morning.

I did give you the idea of the Lookbook, so maybe you’ll entertain my crazy thoughts once again. Thank you, Simon

Thanks

Jackson

Mac

Hi Simon
Would this colour cavalry twill complement your brown Harris tweed jacket?
Also, I’ve seen heavy Jacketing flannel (540g) on the Fox Website, is this still OK for trousers?

Mac

Hi Simon
Would this colour cavalry twill complement your brown Harris tweed jacket?
Also, I’ve seen heavy Jacketing flannel (540g) on the Fox Website, is this still OK for trousers?

S

Simon,

Would you recommend forward pleats on cavalry twill trousers?

And are Dugdale’s or HE Box’s cavalry twill good for trousers?

Thanks,
S

S

Thanks. The Dakota cloth from H&S seems a bit light being 13oz. If you re-ordered these trousers, would you choose a heavier cloth?

Thanks,
S

S

Thanks. So the 16-21 oz from Dugdales (and 990g from HE Box) would be too heavy?

And do you think “Light Fawn” or “Mid Fawn” is closest to your trousers in Dugdales? http://www.dugdalebros.com/the-white-rose-caldonaire/#!/the-white-rose-caldonaire/sort/az/rows/20/page/2/

Thanks,
S

Anonymous

Thanks! The Dugdale “Light Fawn” is 21oz, so that does sound a bit too heavy then..

S

Talking to Russell at GB it looks like a lot of the classic Cavalry Twill is around the 20-21 oz mark. I understand that this is also the “classic” weight for trousers in this type of cloth. Would I end up with something unwearably warm at that weight and what is your view that such heavy weight is the classic/traditional weight?

Thanks,
S

Daniel

Trousers made of 20-21oz CT are warm, but less than those made of flannel. I am using mines until late spring, more or less until the moment when I am moving to lightweight wool / linen.
The big advantage is that they need very little pressing. Great for travelling.

S

Thanks Daniel, that’s helpful to know.

Simon, do you btw know what weight Cording’s Cavalry Twill trousers are?

Thanks,
S

Henry

Simon, whats your opinion on cotton drill trousers? Regards Henry

Henry

Hi Simon, I just ordered myself bespoke cavalry twill trousers from the same fabric from Holland & Sherry. What would be the best navy fabric type to match with the trousers? Hopsack or? Thank you

Henry

Thank you. I trust double breasted navy will also do? regards,

JC

Hi Simon,

Any experience with the Summer Variety cavalry twills from H&S? I’m looking to add more texture to my multi-season trouser lineup, but afraid the Dakota line would be too warm into the warmer months. Do you think the 8oz is just a bit too light to drape well?

Thanks,

JC

Carl

I am ordering a pair of cavalry twill trousers in the exact same color. Would you also be able to use them with a navy blazer or would the comtrast be too high?

Rups

Is cavalry twill a type of serge Simon? the description sounds similar. are you able to recommend any cloth books which have a serge in them?

rups

ok makes sense. I found that cavalry twill is usually woven densely as well. I want to find a serge for a blazer but Im not sure where to look as there is no book of just ’twills’ if that makes sense)

Lindsay Eric McKee

Brilliant post on Cavalry Twill Trousers.
I had a look at the excellent Holland & Sherry Dakota Bunch and it carries Whipcords & Bedford Cords in various weights and colours, including oatmeal.
Which of these weights of cloth is best for wearing most of the year? I had considered 12oz, allowing for a Central heated environment.

Anonymous

Simon, Do you think it would make sense to use twill « Dakota collection from H&S » for a blazer

Anonymous

Simon, would you prefer H&S to Dugdale when it comes to cavalry twill? Thanks.

Nico

Hi Simon,
I am collecting style ideas for some trousers to be made. The waistband of your cav twills here looks great. Seems wider than the standard 3.5 cms, is it 5 cms?
And,
Would you say that trousers that sit on the hips, with side adjusters sewn on the seam and 5 cms waistband is a good compromise between a mid and a high rise?
Thanks,

Nico

Thanks awfully, will be on the lookout

Ollie

Hey Simon,

Would you consider the Dugdale’s navy cav. twill to be a reasonable contender for a jacket? Or is it better applied to suits?

Ollie

Thank you Simon!

John

Hi Simon,

a styling question. What do you think of paring these pale tan trousers (I have one made of exactly the same cloth and color) with black shoes (if other parts of an outfit are dark grey or navy rather than brown)? Preferably loafers, penny or tassel. Would you consider this paring garish or elegant? What socks would you choose? Navy, to make the transition more seamless, or the same light color as that of trousers to rather “punctuate” at the bottom of an outfit?

Thanks!

John

John

Simon, I apologize for the unclear question. I meant that with navy socks, the contrast between the tan trousers and the black shoes would not be so obvious. And on the other hand, with tan socks, the black shoes would be more striking. So, with the black shoes, you would prefer the tan for socks?

Anonymous

Hi Simon, at what temperature do you find wearing your cavalry twill trousers too hot?

Bruno Vendittelli

Great pants! I am seeing the Calvary Twill comes in both wool or cotton. Are they interchangeable regarding what they can be worn with (can cotton calvary twill trousers be worn with Tweed for example)? Also, does cotton hold up as well as wool re: draping effect and wrinkling?

Bruno Vendittelli

Thank you Simon!

Pete

Hi Simon, I’ve started to turn to cavalry twill recently and have acquired my first pair in a deep dark brown colour…
Will dark brown cavalry twill work with a navy cashmere sportscoat or a charcoal herringbone sportscoat?

Barak Cohen

Simon,

Is cavalry twill informal enough to pair comfortably with an OCBD?

Reid Stapleton

What would you say are the best colors for cavalry twill besides the light beige ones you’re wearing?

Anon

Hi Simon – any tips on how to avoid cav twill looking too “fuddy” and old-mannish? For example going for dark green or dark grey colours to be more urban?

Anon

So helpful! Is the green link a typo? Despite years of devotedly reading this I don’t think I had seen the brown link, which is excellent

Tim Hanes

Hi Simon,
Have you any experience of the trousers at Cordings on Piccadilly? Are they a good starter for someone looking to try cavalry twill for the first time?

Nico

Definitely. I was intent on getting them but after trying on had to pull back.
Somewhat odd how Cordings refuses to make some slight adjustments to their cuts / fits that would easily make them much more contemporary.

Tim Hanes

Thanks so much. Looks like a trip to the local alterations tailor might help!

BC

Simon,
Does cavalry twill pair with OCBD? If not, other than flannel or denim, what trouser cloth would you wear with an OCBD?

BC

I suppose a Royal Oxford or pinpoint (smarter than OCBD, per se) would be more appropriate? Thanks!

Sam

Why the cavalry twill can’t go well with the OBCD? When it is more casual than the flannels and OBCD goes well with the flannels, no?

Ben

What do you think of these denim-type fabrics as a more modern alternative to cavalry twill? Given how much more casual things are these days https://stoffa.co/products/ecru-upcycled-cotton-plain-front-washable-trouser-22-05

John

Hi Simon,
I’d like to ask about some technicalities of this pair of trousers pictured in this article/bespoke trousers in general.
Is the waistband made of only one layer of the trousers’s cloth? It seems to me so from the pictures, because the edges don’t seem to be folded on the end piece (the part where the hooks are). Or is there really any lining beneath? (On these trousers the hooks are sewn through the top cloth. I usually have my trousers made with these stitches not visible, i. e. there’s the second layer of the primary cloth on the front and after the second hook some cotton lining starts and is used all around the waist.)
What lining bespoke makers generally use on the inside of waistband/zip area? I mean on thigh it’s basically cupro/ermazine – is it the same on the waist? Or rather some striped cotton as a kind of trademark?
And the last question: Is the inside of the seat (from the back waistband to the bottom end of the zip on the front) usually covered by any lining? On my trousers, expect for the pocketing cloth on the back, I have none.
Thank you very much! John

NoE

Would cavalry twill trousers pair well with cowboys boots of a fairly dressy variety?

Jack

Hi Simon, would these cavalry twill trousers work with a safari jacket(e.g. A&S’s Travel jacket) and the white Common Project sneakers? I have never seen cavalry twill trousers in person, so I am unsure whether they would look less smart than I think, as they look like pretty formal trousers.

Many thanks,
Jack

Jack

Thanks, Simon.

Tom

So is the H&S Dakota book the best for finding cav twill fabrics? What other books you would recommend?

AK

Hi Simon,
Do CTs and Whipcords like these catch on OTC socks? I often struggle with trousers getting caught on my knees when walking or getting up from a chair.

Mino

Hi Simon,
Do you think light or midgrey Cavarly Twill is as versatile as beige/fawn? Just in my opinion, Beige or Fawn Cavalry twill trouser looks almost no different to dressy twill chino at first sight. Or should i go to beige/fawn Whipcord because of its intereing texture and melange?

Jack

Hi Simon, do you think you would have preferred belt loops as in your trousers in flannel if you had commissioned one in cavalry twill these days?

Many thanks,
Jack

Niklas

Can I ask you why you don’t wear Cavalry Twill regularly? Was considering a pair of pants, but feel it has too much look of a more casual alternative (e.g. cotton) but it doesn’t match the functionality.

Guy

What do you think of using CAVALRY TWILL to make a suit.
I m living in a tropical country and quite formal working environment, i m planning to get a light weight dark navy cav twill cloth

Do you think would it be a good idea?and why?

Thank you so much!

GUY

Do you have a particular bunch or brand you might be recommending

Lindsay McKee

It’s Holland and Sherry Seasonal Classics. It’s a tweaked version of Dakota. No Bedford cord and a few extreme colours edited out, some light weight cloth added in. A very nice bunch indeed.
Hope that helps.

John Kiely

Happy New Year, Simon. Thanks for all you do.

Quick one — what do you think about a navy English cavalry twill cloth blazer with grey flannels? I am looking to upgrade a navy hopsack jacket that I wear as a separate with grey trousers. I’d ideally get another navy hopsack blazer, but I’ve seen a very nice cavalry twill version on sale.

I associate cavalry twill with trousers and I’m unsure whether a blazer made of this fabric would work well as a separate — as if I’ve got it the wrong way round.

As always, your opinion would be much appreciated.

Daniel

Hello Simon, Do you still wear your CT trouser often? One day I saw a gentleman wearing it and the surface of CT seems too sleek or shiny more than I thought. I would like to have a beige or fawn trouser with a slight brushed look, is there any other stuff? I think chino is kinda casual for a jacket.

Carlos

Hi Simon

Do you know the manufacturer of the fabric of your trousers?

I am looking for that color and I can’t find it for the moment.

Kind regards
Carlos

Carlos

Oops! Sorry about that and thank you so much, Simon

Anonymous

I love the trousers they look very sharp. Are they also a good match with navy and gray jackets?

Ahmed

Dear Simon,

Since finding and matching exactly the same fabric in terms of weight, is almost impossible, what do you think is an acceptable weight difference? is for example 100 gram weight difference acceptable? I ask this because I wonder if jackets of 350/370 (blazers in twill and flannel) can be matched with cavalry twill trousers of 450 gram. What are the rules on this?

Kind regards,
Ahmed Al-Lahibi

Fraser

Hi Simon,
I am choosing fabric for some trousers that I want for everyday wear. Something smart, nicer than ready to wear, but durable and long lasting. They need to be black for my work, which can be rough and tumble sometimes and outdoors often.
I went and saw this Holland and Sherry bunch today in person. I liked the Cat twill in black but also the Bedford Cord. I saw that you were not so fond of the Bedford Cord.
I guess my question is, could you elaborate on why? It seemed to a novice eye to be pretty similar to some other worsted wools, with limited ridges. And 1-2oz lighter than the twill.
I went in wanting the twill and might still get it, but is that fraction of a weight difference substantial? I also read somewhere that the Bedford does not drape as well as the twill. Could you explain that a little if you have time. The Bedford seemed as pliable to me in the hand as the Cav twill.
Thank you for educating us all!

Fraser

Wow you answer quickly. Thank you. I do want something very slightly more casual. Somewhere more formal than a Chino, less formal than a suiting trouser. If that makes sense. I chose the Holland and Sherry Dakota bunch because of your great article above and also Derek guy said on Styleforum he has 10 trousers from that one bunch. I don’t mind the trousers looking a bit more ‘smart’ I suppose. I’m a music video director, I guess when I said rough and tumble I meant that I am sometimes out in inclement weather, or sat on the ground or other rough surfaces etc. Most people on set are in Cargos and denim. I just wanted to look a bit more put together at work with some nice tailoring. I love the thought that they could be for dinner after work somewhere nice also. The Bedford cord in the Dakota bunch almost has no ridges in it. Looks sort of like a regular worsted wool. I need them to be black because sometimes we have a crew policy that black must be worn so as not to affect lighting. And I can’t ask crew to do what I won’t myself. Plus, I like the versatility of black. Photo of the Navy Bedford twill from that bunch attached to jog your memory.

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Fraser

Thanks for your input Simon. Have a great day.

Fraser

Just realised it is whipcord not Bedford cord! Don’t know if that changes your advice at all.

Zawaad

Hello Simon, how do you feel about cotton cavalry twill? It’s an option I see available and I was wondering what the tradeoff would be in choosing cotton over wool. Cheers!