Fox re-weave my ecru cavalry twill

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*Cloth now sold out. Fox are taking pre-orders for the next batch*

At our pop-up shop back in April 2017, Fox Brothers brought up some vintage bolts to offer readers, including a rather beautiful ecru cavalry twill.  

I bought a length myself, and subsequently had it made up into some plain-front trousers with Pommella. Those trousers have proved very popular, with inquiries to both myself and Fox about the possibility of getting more of it.

So late last year we decided to go ahead and re-weave the cloth, and I’m happy to say that a limited run is now available on the Merchant Fox website.

There is only 14 metres available, so with men needing on average 1.5 metres for trousers, there will only be about 10 cuts on offer.

However, Fox have been careful to make sure they have access to the yarn, so another batch can be woven relatively quickly.

If you find the cloth is sold out, therefore, please follow the instructions on the Fox site to be on the list for the next batch. They will then be in touch with details. We're waiting to confirm when that next batch will be ready.

There is a drop-down menu where you can select the length you require, but if you want other options (or want to ask further questions) you can email Amy Haines at [email protected].

I love my trousers, in particular the slightly unusual double twill and the super-sharp creases it produces.

They are heavy, at 16/17 ounces, and are therefore really only for Autumn/Winter. (Think sunny, chilly days.)

And of course cream is not the most practical colour. But if you have most other colours in your wardrobe, cream is a lovely addition. It’s a way to make a statement without strong patterns or loud colours.

I tend to wear mine with dark, simple colours elsewhere - in particular greys.

In the image above they work well with a grey brushed-cotton shirt and brown nubuck jacket. It's all about texture and contrast of tone.

And in the outfit below the combination is actually quite similar - with a charcoal rollneck on top and my brown-tweed ulster coat over it.

Again, texture and contrast.

Finally, in my piece ‘How to wear trainers’ I wore the trousers with a denim shirt (which I think works particularly well, subverting the formality of the trousers) and a navy cardigan.

The lack of pattern is not coincidental.

The cloth is 450/480g (16/17oz), 100% pure new wool, code FS684-C2076/11. It costs £140 a metre.

I had my trousers half lined, and I’d recommend that - the wool isn’t coarse, but it’s not super-soft either.

Cloth on the Merchant Fox website here.

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Oliver

I think when you say “cream is not the most practical colour” you really mean “cream is pretty much the least practical colour”.

I have some lovely cream trousers. Experience has told me that you either accept a build up of stains over time, or use of the dry cleaner every few wears. Which, of course, means that they don’t get worn very much at all. Such is life I suppose!

O

Jim P

Stick to cricket with that colour.

CJ

I have to agree

David

Beautiful fabric but overpriced: 140 pounds per meter? I noticed a huge increase of Fox pricing recently (from 92£ to 108£ for the Classic Flannel bunch). Despite their hype on the market, I don’t think it’s an clever marketing pratice and it could be counterproductive at the end.

David

Interesting explanation. One rule nevertheless when it comes to pricing issues: always motivate the increase or the customer won’t understand why he should pay a higher price for the same product without increase on quality. Personnaly I was thinking to buy few meters of a Fox classic charcoal flannel but now I tend to explore HFW options which flannels are surely as qualitative. It’s the law of competition.

Omar Asif

To your point on HFW flannel’s quality, i agree. And a Row tailor (who shall remain nameless) told me a few years ago that HFW flannel is also woven by Fox. HFW have also increased their prices for the current bunch and Fox’s price premium over HFW is still pretty much the same, around £8 per metre.

Anonymous

HFW have a great choice of flannel. I’ve had two pairs of trousers made from their cloth. They seem to have a better selection than Fox.

Nick Inkster

I don’t think it sounds too expensive. The LL range hovers at around £120 on much longer runs. 1.5 yds should be plenty for the average build, so sub £200.

PATRICK

I dont agree. The price is on-par with a Scabal cloth of the same weight (maybe you could strike gold with something from Bower, but Im sure most British mills would offer a similar cloth to this one, around the same price point)
And it doesnt feel expensive considering its a small run.
I totally agree with Simon. Some people always assume brands are either stupid or blind. Put yourself in Fox’s shoes for a second: why in the world would they sell a cloth twice as expensive as their direct competitor’s, when their customer base is so small and 100% able to compare between options???

Tomasz A.

I’m on Fox mailing list and they announced increase of price well in advance allowing people to buy at the old price. The increase was also justified by the price of raw materials going up, which I can understand.

Burt

Dugdale’s have a lovely cream coloured cavalry twill in their white rose Caldonaire bunch nr. 4220.
It’s a heavy cloth at 600 g/21 oz, but then cavalry twill does not wear warm. You can wear this at temperatures of up to 20-22 Celsius. And it certainly is more stain resistant than one would expect. They call it light fawn, that’s what the picture suggests too, but it’s rather a dark cream in reality.
(See: http://www.dugdalebros.com/the-white-rose-caldonaire/product/4220_light_fawn_cavalry_twill/colour/light_fawn_cavalry_twill/page/145/ )

H

I hope this is a suitable place to ask, but what would your recommendation be for formal odd trousers around the £300-£400 mark. I’m not looking for anything stylistically special: just flat-fronted and fairly straight-legged with side adjusters.

I know Rota (via Drake’s and Anderson & Sheppard) is supposed to be one of the better RTW’s, but would you look at MTM options (P. Johnson, Anglo Italian, Saman Aman’s Toscana line etc) or even entry level bespoke like Graham Browne?

JB

I have several pairs of MTM trousers from both Saman Amel and Stòffa and I can highly recommend them both.

Dominic

I have two pairs of trousers from GB, one flannel and one linen, and have just ordered two more. At £280 they’re excellent value. Definitely comparable to a pair I have from A&S.
I think the finish at GB noticeably improved over the last year as they moved production in-house.

H

Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I’m actually between the first and second fittings with Russell for my first GB suit, so I will find out soon how the trousers of that are and be able to make a direct comparison. In the mean-time, is there a specific one of those (or other) MTM makers you would recommend trying first Simon?

Through PS, I’ve started to understand and enjoy experimenting with jacket styles (GB will be the first English military cut) but ideally I’d like to see trousers become a bit like shirts for me – where I can stick to one style and place and order a couple of flannels every winter and high-twists every summer in a price range I’m comfortable with.

Feurich

Is it wrong to consider cream and other light colors more appropriate for summer wear? This is my reaction when I see these trousers, or white trainers (sneakers) etc. That being said, I feel this reaction less for an oatmeal jacket worn in winter. I’d like to hear the views of others on this.

Alex H.

Good sir, might you be able to provide information on the brown overcoat pictured above?

Also, unrelated, any thought regarding the Rapha Custom program that is forthcoming? Perhaps a Permanent Style x Rapha collaboration?

BespokeNYC

+1 on this! The merino pieces are great, but it’s their crossover items (like the city gloves or the jeans) that are so useful for any man who uses a bike as a means of transportation more than as a means of exercise. I have the sense PS insights could be very useful here…

Bob

Being both colourblind (and the general issue of colour in photos on the internet) and not being able to see any of the fabrics beforehand …. how does this fabric compare to that used for your recent Drake’s trousers?

Bob

It does thanks.

If you were to going to get a pair of trousers made in one or the other, assuming you have nothing similar at all presently and unlikely to get anything else soon…. which would you go for?

Matt S

What beautiful cloth! Cream may not be the most practical colour, but it is certainly a versatile one. It looks perfect up against almost anything, from navy to brown to grey to tan.

JBW

Simon,

Is there anything in particular that makes Fox flannel fabrics superior to its competitors? Or is Fox marketing just better than rivals?

John

Hi Simon,
This outcome deserves a post indeed!
As to the time and occasion when you might pull off your trousers, I just wonder whether you wouldn’t be fairly realistic if you relied less on sunny days in London and thought instead of evening events when they could be appropriate too.
John

Anonymous

A small pernickety point so I apologise in advance but, occassionally, when describing a product you venture into the possessive ‘my ecru cavalry twill’ (vs. ‘Fox’s ecru’)…it sometimes looks ungracious or over-keen to take credit. The cloth is Fox’s and had nothing to do with you re. choice of colour or weave (unless you haven’t told us). I acknowledge that you did pick it and latterly promote it. It has been true with some collaborations where ‘my’ is oft used. Your large, loyal audience is already a convert and admires much if not all of what you do and we will always give you the credit – where it is due.

Anon

Speaking of which… Do you know when the short sleeve polo will be back in stock?

Anonymous

Hi Simon

The side fastener, do you source your own? Or do you go with whatever the tailor supplies? If the former, which retailer do you use?

Thanks in advance.

Ps would I be correct in assuming that a side fastener is more formal than a belt?

Ron Master Tailors

Hey Simon!
Nice pictures clicked above and perfect dressing style. I usually don’t like the cream colour but the above fabric is looking beautiful and the price is not that expensive according to the quality of the product.

anand

Simon on the colour which seems to have got the most attention in the comments whats your opinion of wearing cream more generally? Cream linen suits come to mind in the Summer. Is it a nightmare in terms of maintenance? Do your clothes require frequent cleaning. Be interested to hear your experience.

S

Hi Simon,

If these trousers got badly stained, do you think it would be possible to have them dyed to a darker colour?

Thanks!

S

Yes, there are a few traditional ‘teinturerie’ in Paris (you have to pay attention because some normal dry-cleaners also call themselves ‘teinturerie’). I have seen really excellent results on stained cotton clothes, just wondering if it could work as well for wool. It would be interesting to try out, and definitely an incentive to invest in clothes in more ‘unpractical’ colours. Thanks anyway!

Carl

Hi Simon,

I am thinking about commissioning a pair of cavalry twill trousers but are a little bit worried about the “sheen” of the cloth. I am afraid that it is not muted enough to work in a casual outfit. What is your opinion?

Anonymous

Hi Simon, I really like this cream shade and am looking something equivalent for summer. The only fabric that came close is the the cream ones from new fine worsted but I prefer lighter weight twill cotton / linen. Do you have any recommendation? Thanks 🙂

Noel

Hi Simon,

I’ve been wanting to get some wool cream trousers for autumn / winter and I wondered if I should go for this cavalry twill or a cream flannel instead? What are the relative merits of each fabric? Thanks.

Noel

Hi Simon,

The shoes here are fairly formal (slim, thin leather sole, oxfords) in spite of their broguing.

There are those like Derek Guy who think that oxfords are only really suitable for suits or quite formal outfits (source: https://putthison.com/oxfords-for-suits-derbies-for-sport-coats-someone/). I’ve seen also this point made in other places.

I wonder what were your thoughts about oxfords in general. Are they ok with smart casual or even casual outfits if the rest of the shoe is less formal (broguing, perhaps a country shoe)? Where do you draw the line?

Noel

Thanks Simon. That’s sort of what I was thinking. After all, as you tend to say rules are more for guidance.

Ludwig

Hi Simon,

Is there any chance this cloth is coming back for this autumn/winter season?

Thanks,
Ludwig