Introducing: The Finest Cardigan
This is the finest cardigan you will find, anywhere.
That’s what we do with this series of knitwear pieces (like the Dartmoor): commission the finest quality possible, and design it to be the perfect partner for tailoring.
This cardigan uses a particularly fine merino yarn, making it feel smooth and luxurious, and the manufacture is the best available: fine fashioned seams, smooth finishing. Basically, knitwear worthy of bespoke.
There are details lower down on these points - illustrated with a comparison to John Smedley.
But for now, a quick back story. Six years ago I did a collaboration with Smedley to create the ‘Finagon’: my version of their standard sleeveless cardigan, designed for tailoring.
That became part of their full collection, but was discontinued two years ago. So I set out then to make my own model, with a few technical improvements, a finer merino and an elevated make.
This is the result. Two years of work, sampling and production, resulting in two beautiful cardigans, in navy and dark green.
One improvement we made over the Finagon was the armhole. This was always a little high for many readers (clear from looking back at the comments) and eventually uncomfortable as a result.
We tried three different heights before we got it right, and now have something with enough clearance for any shirt, although still not noticeable unless you’re looking for it.
We also added a centimetre to the length following similar feedback. But importantly, we kept the even tension the Finagon had in the body and ribbing. This means the cardigan doesn’t pull as much around the waist and hips, but lies flatter - again more akin to a waistcoat.
This looks clean, plus makes it easier to vary the number of buttons you have undone at the bottom.
I have two unfastened here, which works well with my mid-rise trousers. But you could just have one, which would be better for low-rise. Or indeed three, if you like that style and wear high-waisted trousers.
The merino we used is Wish 2/60 from Loro Piana - the same as the Dartmoor but not quite as delicate as the previous Finest Knitwear.
This kind of merino feels sumptuous, redolent of cashmere even, but is more robust. Which is what you want in something that should be a workhorse of your wardrobe.
We made it in navy and the same dark green as the Finest Knitwear, given both were so popular.
Navy is of course the menswear standard. But this green is versatile because you're unlikely to be wearing green elsewhere, and because it is dark and muted. Almost like an interesting charcoal.
Still, the green’s extra colour does make it a nice partner for warmer-coloured jackets like the biscuit pictured above (from Richard James).
The other outfit, meanwhile, shows how the navy cardigan can add a sartorial touch to a simple checked jacket and grey trousers (below).
The effect is similar to a waistcoat - framing the chest and wrapping the stomach, while adding a dark outline to the lapels when the jacket is fastened.
To anyone pining for old-fashioned tailoring, a cardigan like this can add recreate some of the waistcoat's flattering lines, but without looking too formal.
And if the jacket were less bold - say a subtle herringbone - it would create an office look that was conservative yet characterful.
Of course, a cardigan also makes a shirt-and-trousers outfit look much more put together around the office. It’s a layer of interest, without the structure of a jacket or the bulk of a sweater.
Plus it’s useful for layering, in an air-conditioned office or a chilly morning commute.
These days, that office might well be your home, and a cardigan’s practicality shows there as well, adding warmth, keeping freedom of movement, and dressing up a little for any video call.
Now the technical bits. Below the Finest Cardigan is compared to probably the best-known brand, John Smedley.
I must emphasise, Smedley makes great knitwear. I wear it and love it, as illustrated recently. But that doesn't mean there aren't ways the make can be improved.
For example, look at the image below, showing how the bottom of the placket is finished on the inside of the two cardigans.
The Smedley (left, purple) is simply folded back and sewn down. Whereas the Finest Cardigan (right, green) is tucked inside and finished more neatly.
The fashioning on the Finest Cardigan is also done more precisely, leading to a smoother finish.
In the second image above, you can see how the Smedley has a thick rib around the inside of the armhole. The Finest Cardigan, on the right, does not.
And perhaps most importantly, that effect is replicated on the front of the cardigan, where the body meets the placket (third image). Here the Smedley too has a thick ridge, where the Finest does not.
This kind of high-quality, luxurious finish is evident in many other places on the outside, from the shoulder seam to the ribbing, and elevates the whole product.
This type of finish involves a lot more work, and therefore cost. If Smedley were able to make it, it would probably mean doubling their prices. The brands that our factory, Umbria Verde, supplies sell this type of cardigan for over €350.
As with all Permanent Style products, however, we price with a lower margin to reflect the costs of operating only online. Hence the Finest Cardigan’s price of £210 plus VAT.
The finest quality, but still great value. That’s the aim.
I really hope you enjoy this cardigan. I've loved wearing it, found it endlessly useful, and love having it out there finally for everyone else to enjoy too.
It's available on the shop site in the normal sizes, here.
- Made in Loro Piana Wish 2/60 yarn
- 33 gauge knitting (Smedley is usually 30)
- Mother of pearl buttons
- Made in Italy and shipped from the UK
- Prices quoted do not include VAT or duties: these are calculated and charged by the courier, when the item arrives
- Free returns and exchanges
- Available exclusively from Shop.PermanentStyle.com
- Moderately slim fit. Do check measurements against knitwear you already own
- Back length and front length are the same
- Chest is pit to pit
- Shoulder is length of shoulder seam
- Armhole is armhole height
- Bottom is width of ribbing at bottom of cardigan
- Opening is distance from top of cardigan to where plackets overlap
- Simon is 6 foot fall, with a 39-inch chest, and is wearing a Medium
Other clothes shown:
- Glen-check jacket in Marling & Evans undyed wool by Prologue
- White twill shirt by Luca Avitabile
- Mid-grey trousers in Holland & Sherry Crispaire cloth by Cerrato
- (Worn with black-suede tassel loafers)
- Biscuit herringbone jacket in Joshua Ellis cashmere by Richard James
- Shadow-stripe shirt in cotton/linen from Luca Avitabile
- Beige trousers in Drapers cotton by Dalcuore
- (Worn with brown-calf tassel loafers)
Photography: Alex Natt @adnatt
Nice cardi but still very expensive for £250.
Absolutely Matt – the best things in the world are always going to be expensive, even relatively. Plenty of people (like Smedley) produce a great garment at a lower price and quality level. Here we want to make the very best.
Very nice! I am leaning against the green one as I would probably want some contrast with navy jackets and also were as a more stylish alternative to horrible christmas sweaters and things like that in the cold months. But I wonder if there is any occasion where the navy one would be better, for example with a grey suit. I will probably mostly were it with flannels and a light blue shirt without a jacket. I would love to buy both but are on a budget.
I think both could work with those combinations equally well Carl. I would pick based on which colour you think you will enjoy wearing best on its own merits. Eg navy will be less noticeable, but perhaps less interesting as well.
This looks to be another beautiful and unique product so congratulations on getting it into the market. Can you please add some advice on washing; frequency, methodology, cleaning materials, drying, ironing etc?
Sure. It’s similar to any fine knitwear. You should hand wash, but that can include a hand wash setting on a washing machine, and then be rolled in a towel to take off excess moisture, and dried flat on a rack. Some light ironing under a tea towel or cloth might be required after drying.
It shouldn’t need it very often at all, though, given none of it touches the skin. I would only think it necessary if you get something on it, or sweat into the armhole area regularly. I’ve never felt the need to wash mine, which I’ve had for years. There is no odour or obvious dirt. An occasional brush down can help a little there as well.
Let me know if you have any other questions
I think the dark green with a pink shirt and blue trousers would look nice.
Hi Simon, nice cardigan! I hope it will be a recurring item in the shop, as it’s good to have staples that can be relied upon. I also really like the Richard James jacket, I know it didn’t achieve the Neapolitan look you tried to emulate, but as its own thing it looks very nice. What’s the pen btw?
Thanks, yes it did. There’s some nice footage of it in the handkerchiefs video as well.
The pen is a Dunhill sidecar – brown lacquer
Sumptuous ! Another piece to add to my wardrobe, after my two finest knitwear (navy V neck, green crew neck). You’re not showing any picture wearing a tie. Any specific reason?
No, not particularly. It would work well with a tie
Any plans to do a version with sleeves? I love the finest knitware and would like to add an other piece in this wonderful quality, but I just can’t help myself against sleeveless cardigans falling in the same category like vests, vents, or cuffs, all resembling an odd oldmanish look.
No sorry Manuel, no plans. To be honest I find full cardigans like this less flattering and harder to wear.
Sleeveless cardigans are also one of the few things I’ve found myself very wrong about over the years – in particular whether they look old-fashioned or not. Piece on that U-turn here.
Hear hear. This is a lovely garment, I’m sure, but I can’t wear a sleeveless cardigan without feeling like I am wearing a costume. Same with turtlenecks, very stylish on some people (and rational to some extent), but I will never wear one – just feels affected / old fashioned / je ne sais quoi. I do like pleats and cuffs on my trousers and don’t mind wearing my trousers a bit higher than the 2020 average hight so I guess it all just boils down to (fairly random) personal preference / taste. Well done Simon and look forward to your next project!
Garment measurements can be sometimes wrong. Would you recommend small or medium for someone who is 5 10, 165 pounds, quite lean and wears size 38 in jackets?
The garment measurements should be pretty good; they were done by the factory rather than us.
I’d imagine you would be a Small, but it is worth comparing the measurements against something you already own if you can. There are so many other factors in sizing, such as your relative torso length, or in how you like your cardigans, eg in relation to your jacket length.
Thanks! I meant, the measurements we make ourselves when measuring something we own. I have a BrooksBrothers cotton vest in medium and it seems similar to the medium you offer, but I might like something a bit more fitted, so perhaps I’ll go with small as you suggested…
Ah, of course, yes very true.
OK, do go ahead. Remember, we offer free returns and exchanges – so you can easily swap it for a medium if you want. Or, order both and return one of them for free.
That is great service but also a terrible waste of resources. I would have thought you would be a bit more conservative with sending stuff around the globe just for a fitting!
Compared to the resources involved in running a physical shop, it’s very small.
Looks like a beautiful product. For me, the challenge with cardigans is the length – cardigans have to fit just right to avoid looking old fogeyish. With ordinary sweaters that are gathered at the waist you have some flexibility in regard to length. But if a cardigan is just slightly too long, it looks ridiculous. Unfortunately, given my height (5.7) and waist (37), this would be too long for me. I take it these cannot easily be altered, right?
By the way, are you thinking of doing another run of the finest sweaters? I have a navy v-neck which is great for layering with a sports coat, but would be nice to have one in crew neck as well.
No, they cannot be altered I’m afraid. The point in the article about tension in the body and ribbing is an attempt to deal with this – but it’s not the same as actually changing the length.
And no, the Finest Knitwear has been discontinued I’m afraid. It is being replaced with more specific pieces like this and the Dartmoor.
Any particular reason why Finest Knitwear has been discontinued? I would think those basics made with quality would consistently be in high demand?
We’re a small shop and can’t keep everything in stock unfortunately. Even though we’re much more consistent than brands that change every season, we can’t introduce new things like the Dartmoor and Finest Cardigan without discontinuing others.
And I personally feel that these two new products are more different to the rest of the market – it’s not just merely the make that is unique here, but the design as well.
I see…offering something that may not be readily available from other shops, which people may be want…how about a survey/vote of other unique items you yourself would like to wear, as well as your readers may be interested in, and see if it would be feasible to manufacture?
Sure, that’s a nice idea. Though readers do readily suggest such pieces in any case – either here on email etc
Hey Simon. Great product, as always. Could you elaborate more on the even tension in the body and ribbing? It is not clear to me what that means, exactly.
Yes, sorry it is hard to explain.
Basically, the ribbing at the bottom of a cardigan is normally quite tight. If you laid it flat, you would see that the ribbing looks smaller in size than the body of the cardigan just above it.
This is one reason the bottom couple of buttons on a cardigan can often look as if they are being pulled – it’s by that small ribbing.
With ours, we made the ribbing a touch bigger, making it closer in width to the body of the cardigan, and so reducing that pulling.
You can’t make it exactly the same, or it would look rather odd. But even this small change makes a difference.
I hope that makes sense. If not I can try and take some separate comparison pictures at some point.
It makes perfect sense now. Thank you.
Do you intend to add some colors in the future, like an olive green, some shades of grey or camel? I think they are versatile and popular enough to have a minimum demand.
Yes, we certainly will
I think this is a great piece to add to a wardrobe. Especially as an alternative to a vest in an office environment.
I’m 5ft 9” and concerned that the length on the small size (62cm) might end up too long. 59-60cm looks to finish just right.
As some have already commented, a relatively snug fit on a vest is important to achieve a contemporary look.
Can we expect any shrinkage after a wash?
Would definitely love to pick it up if it fits.
If there is enough demand or feedback, I hope you can consider offering a slightly shorter length (60cm) in your future release of these if you do them again.
Thanks Neil. And no, there shouldn’t be any shrinkage
Any advice on how much a waistcoat, or in this case a cardigan vest, should be revealed above the buttoning point on your jacket? I’ve heard a few different takes over the years, and I was curious of your opinion.
It’s mostly a question of taste Ben, and obviously varies with the jacket styles too. Personally I like something fairly slim, like the look shown – say around 3 inches
Looks very good, Simon. I still wear and enjoy my Finagons and I’m happy to see you’ve developed an improved version. I was disappointed when Smedley discontinued the Finagon and I found its replacement to be very disappointing. The collar of the replacement simply doesn’t sit flat under a jacket. So, I’m happy to pick up one of these new products. I’m sure it will be a hit!
Many thanks Andrew, I really hope you like it.
I received my (dark green) cardigan a few days ago. What an exquisite product! Much nicer, in my opinion, than the Finagon. Beautiful, fine-gauge knitwear. The only downside is I’ll have to wait many months to actually wear it! Oh, well.
I know you’re not keen on “showy” colors, but should you make this product in a burgundy (crimson being too much to hope for!), or a sand/gold color, I’m all-in!
Excellent product, Simon, thank you.
That’s so, so lovely to hear Andy, thank you
Congratulations on this new launch, Simon. An excellent addition to what is probably the most fine-tuned and consistent range of RTW knitwear that can be found anywhere.
Something I’ve been thinking about – is there room for a trouser project in Permanent Style’s future? The closest I can remember is the one from the Drake’s collaboration. Any plans to do another trouser project more akin to the knitwear and outerwear you’ve created?
Thank you Joseph.
Probably not, to be honest. Mostly this is because I don’t work by looking at different categories that the shop could offer. Rather, I look for things I would like to buy and can’t find. Which is a lot with shirt cloth, for example, but very little with trousers. It’s rather different to a normal shop.
Is there something you think’s missing?
No, not at all. I was just wondering what your perspective would be on that – on whether there’s a gap there that needs filling, as you would say. And seeing as your answer is based on a vast wealth of experience, I’m pretty convinced that as it stands trouser options for all occasions are plentiful enough that a PS version wouldn’t need to be made.
Thanks for indulging my curiosity Simon, I hope it hasn’t been a bother. Cheers
Not at all Joseph. Do let me know if any gaps ever occur to you
Impossible to find a really hardy but stylish trouser. Something I could walk, bike, shoot etc in
It’s possible the question from Otavio is more about the purpose of the ribbing than its dimensions etc, as you have answered.
If I may; the ribbing will hold the bottom of the cardigan close to the wearers body. The overall length of the cardigan relative to the length of the wearers torso will then determine if there is and loose cloth above the ribbing which forms a “fold”, or wether there is a smooth flow down the torso will no visible “fold”. Furthermore, you can, if you wish, creat a “fold” by hitching the ribbing up slightly above where it would normally come to rest.
Pretty basis stuff really but worthy of explanation.
Of course, if you undo some of the lower buttons, as I do and discuss, there is less of that folding, at least at the front
another topic… how about a next “Style Guide” or “Lookbook”? Would love to see more of these beautiful photographs in book. If planned, you must include some of Jamies outfits, too!
Keep it up, Simon! One can easily see all the efforts you put into writing and picturing. Great work!
Thank you Max, much appreciated.
We have been talking about doing another book together. It might well be the one after the Style Breakdown book, which will be out later this year
Love this, Simon! One big question though, if you don’t mind: I am 6’6” so naturally wondering if you’ll be offering a “Tall” version of this? I’ve purchased knitwear from you in the past and they’ve been simply too short (while everything else was spot-on). Any input here?
No I’m sorry, we won’t be offering a Tall version of it. As with other runs of sizes, we just don’t have the capacity to offer that.
Simon i’m quite sad that i’m too small for these sizes…. 🙁
I am sorry about that. Unfortunately our size makes it hard to carry a bigger range of sizes
The dark green wool – grey button combo is superb.
Given the aim of delivering the best product on the market, would a 40+ gauge not have been preferable?
No, that would have been too fine
Can you talk about the length of the opening, and why you chose this length? Seems other cardigans, like the ones by Drake’s, have shorter openings and maybe this looks more casual.
You mean the opening in the chest?
It is a little smarter, yes, and deliberately so. It works a lot better with tailoring, I find, if the line of the cardigan follows more closely the line of the jacket lapels. The same would be the case with a waistcoat.
The pieces like those at Drake’s are more casual, almost workwear-like, and only work with tailoring like this if more buttons are open at the top. But then you don’t get clean line in the cardigan.
Yes, that’s what I meant. Sorry, I lack the vocabulary for those specifics… Good answer, thanks!
Sleeveless cardigans invoke images of clock watching dusty civil servants in some backwater government office performing some meaningless task. I don’t see the attraction no matter how it’s spun.
It’s a garment that prematurely ages you. I’m sorry, I see no attractiveness in cardigans.
Fair enough. I’m not sure many would get that association from looks like these shown, but perhaps you still do.
In my style experiments, it’s not something I thought would work for me. But in the end, my thin merino wool gray and navy cardigans (sleeved) are some of the items I end up wearing the most. It’s a very flattering look on the right body type, and it shows confidence. I see more young people wearing them than older folks, at least here in North America.
Interesting. Thanks Ludwig
“Clock watching … blah blah blah … meaningless task … no attractiveness.”
OK. But they are warm, without all the bunching up of long sleeves. I’ll take one in every color!
I keep coming back to the glencheck jacket – truly gorgeous!
have you ever heard about a very exclusive cashmere yarn 3/80. Is extremely fine with a very soft touch. If you may interested in this, contact me please, I sell some pieces of this yarn in our shop In Munich.
I think that might be too delicate and soft for the knitwear we make, but thank you for suggesting it.
Simon, given the fact that I am a 44 inch chest even the XL will be too small for me?
No I think the XL might be OK. If I wore a RTW jacket these days it would probably be a 40, and the Medium works well for me, so on that basis a 44 would fit an XL. But do check the measurements here against fine knitwear you have, if you can.
And if you (unfortunately) are a 46/56. Do you think it would work?
Perhaps. I’d recommend checking the measurements against another cardigan if you can. Just going off a chest measurement isn’t that accurate
I just ordered the cardigan in both colours.
I was too late with the reversible Valstarino and the lightweight Friday Polos but this time, timing was spot on. Thinking about a sleeveless cardigan, I had looked your site for some styling cues (as I have grown accustomed to) :-). I found the old Finogan thread at the bottom of which I saw your reference to your new cardigan project!
I absolutely love your niche, Simon. Cool, high quality products, timeless and a good value.
Other possible PM projects that come to mind (if I may): A leather belt (reversible?), a lightweight raincoat, a Gaziano Girling PM made-to-order shoe (vintage brown Oxford with tasteful detailing?).
Keep up the great work, Simon.
Thanks Jan, that’s so nice.
The Valstarino and the lightweight polo will be back soon, if you want to drop the Support line an email and put yourself on the waiting list ([email protected])
I assume since this is merino wool it’s good in hot weather? I find merino wool can sometimes be so fine it looks a bit…dainty or effeminate? Doesn’t look like that’s an issue here.
I don’t think it is, no, but it does mean I’d only wear it with relatively smart things, as here. Not jeans etc. The lambswool, chunkier ones are better for that
Simon, Looks like a great cardigan! Curious where you stand on the Smedley range of products these days. By extension of inclusion in your book, you had once effectively dubbed their knitwear the “finest in the world.” Lately, it seems like you are as high on them as you were previously. These days, what is your top ranked off the rack knitwear brand?
Smedley makes very good knitwear, but it’s certainly not the finest in the world. The make here is finer. I’ve only seen that level from Hermes and Brioni – not a knitwear brand specifically. I’m not sure it would be economic to run a knitwear brand selling just at this level.
Oh, and Loro Piana. Worth noting that they were in the Finest Menswear In The World Book. Smedley were in the Best of British book, which was about heritage, rather than quality
I meant to write, “NOT as high.” Sorry.
To Nicolas and Carl in relation to the queries about XL – I’m a 46 inch chest when buying jackets and having just received my XL cardigan from Simon (great quick service btw) confirm it fits me just fine. I’d describe it as snug rather than roomy – so ideal for wearing under a jacket. Very happy with fit and quality. Hope that helps.
Thanks for passing that on Roy
It arrived in the US within four days. Excellent fit and finish, as promised. Thank you Simon.
Oh good! So pleased you like it Cameron
I have the navy and it’s really nice. Things I like:
-no pockets, I think the pockets give a rustic look
-It’s cut on the short side, so works with trousers that sit on the waist
-the buttons are small and subtle; I’m not a fan of large or leather buttons
-it is thin, there are no problems wearing it under a jacket
-the cut is really nice
-the navy is a nice, dark navy
I love dark green, especially in knitwear, but a sleeveless cardigan is going to stand out on its own and, for me, is already pushing the boundaries in terms of looking smart vs. looking dandy-ish. If I’m going to wear a sleeveless cardigan, everything else about it needs to be toned down – the color, the buttons, etc. I think the green, even though it’s dark, might be a bit too far for my style. However I’m certain many people with a bolder sense of style will wear it well, and objectively it does look really nice.
If this is your first sleeveless cardigan, as it was mine, the navy is perfect for testing the waters.
Really useful feedback on the cardigan, thanks Tim
Nice cardigan. If you end up making a shirt in the madras cloth or the pink oxford, I’ll grab those too. The striped oxford is probably my favorite shirt though.
Nice to hear.
There will be a pink oxford shirt later in the year. No current plans for the madras though
Is your glen check Prologue jacket quarter or fully lined?
Hi Simon, this looks beautiful and i am very tempted. It brings a new angle to my knitwear collection that isn’t another crew neck or long sleeve polo. I was hoping for your thoughts on a few points:
1) blue shirts are the most common color in most mens wardrobe, so do you think a navy cardigan works, or is it too much blue?
2) Related to that, do you plan to release this in dark grey/charcoal? I think that would nicely offset the peppiness of sleeveless cardigans, making it more casual.
3) Is the M a good fit on you, or would an S work too? I took the same size as you in oxford shirts and bridge coat, both of which fit well.
1) Absolutely, a blue shirt is great with a navy cardigan, as it would be with a navy jacket
2) No, sorry no plans to do so
3) An S works well too – I actually have both, and wear the S more now. If in doubt, I would take the smaller size
Does the green sleeveless cardigan work under a classic dark navy blazer or are the colors too close?
No it definitely does – in the same way a tie in that colour or indeed handkerchief would look nice too
Hi Simon, would this cardigan work with a more casual outfit as well? Such as cotton chinos or jeans.
No, I don’t think so Jack. There are plenty of more casual cardigans out there. This is designed to be the finest there is – a partner for a bespoke jacket and other tailoring.
Hi Simon! I was wondering if you could tell me the name/code of the Marling & Evans undyed wool cloth you used for the Glen-check jacket as well as the book I would need to order through my tailor. Would be massively appreciated, as I’ve been searching a while for something like this. Thanks a lot in advance! Best, Sebastian
I’m afraid I don’t know, sorry Sebastian. I don’t have it written down anywhere
I’m pretty sure it’s S1592
Partly because of how fetching you look in this jacket, I was going to commission something similar from one of your favourite Neapolitan tailors, crucially with Marling & Evans undyed wool. The tailor replied that it was an ‘industrial’ fabric, barely able to conceal his contempt.
Is that right?
What do you think of the fabric’s quality?
It’s certainly not an industrial fabric, as in it’s produced in small quantities.
I would imagine that what the tailor is looking down his nose at, is the fact that the wool is quite coarse. It’s a British wool, deliberately so, and that’s always going to be the case. But then a lot of tweed is similar.
could you share some details about the Prologue jacket? Is it from their ready to wear collection? I am unsure about the sizing, normally I would go for a 48, but here I guess 50 could also work. Since I’m actually the same size as you, it would be nice to know what size you went (for if it’s as the ready to wear collection).
It was made for me I’m afraid, not RTW. I’ve never tried their RTW
Thank you for your response!
I was wondering if you ever planned on releasing a cream version? I was just looking over your TA Polo Coat article and thought the aesthetic of a cream cardigan over the pink shirt fantastic!
Cheers. No, no plans for a cream though I’m afraid
Looks like I will have to continue my search.
Do you remember where you purchased that cream cardigan? The one in The Anthology Polo Coat article?
It was Drake’s
Hi Simon. Would you say the dark green version of this cardigan works well under a navy suit?
Yes, I think that’s a nice touch. Particularly when no one is wearing a tie any more
We still are where I work!
Hi Simon, would you wear the cardigan with a worsted suit?
Absolutely, it would be very fitting